Newtown seeks to deny newspapers access to death certificates of Sandy Hook victims

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posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 08:24 PM
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Okay, this eases my mind and lays to rest any doubts. My hunch is it's probably just another ploy to "normalize" making secret what has always been public. Not knowing who ever really lived or died on this planet could come in handy for them in many ways.

If they are trying to hide something, I don't understand the clumsiness of this attempt to do so. So it doesn't really make sense from that angle.

What do you all think?

digitaljournal.com...


The Newtown, Connecticut Town Clerk is seeking to deny newspapers from viewing public record death certificates of Sandy Hook victims, according to the Newtown Bee. The Clerk maintains that access to vital records such as death and marriage certificates should be limited to immediate family members or their representatives, and has undertaken to change present law. The New York Post, the Connecticut Post, the Associated Press, the Hartford Courant, and other media have put forth requests for official death certificates of Sandy Hook victims, the Newton Bee report says. Newtown Town Clerk Debbie Aurelia says she is working with State Representatives Dan Carter, Mitch Bolinsky, and the leadership of the state association of town clerks to craft state legislation: "that would provide the press and public with limited directory information from death and marriage records, but would withhold the actual death and marriage certificates." digitaljournal.com...
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posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 08:32 PM
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How else are they supposed to MAKE the history? They can't have anyone putting together an accurate account of what really happened now can they...



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 08:33 PM
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posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 08:41 PM
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The real story is here you have a few major media, like AP, actually trying to do their jobs and run some basic fact-checking, just for old times sake, and they run up against this. Wonder what they're thinking now?
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posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 09:11 PM
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They had all the fake death certs ready to go but the computers were down at Kinko's so they decided it's time to change the laws. Can't understand why this hoax isn't going well.



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 09:14 PM
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The problem here is that the requests are made now under current laws. They must be provided.

You cannot deny the request while you try to change the Law. This Town Clerk needs to be put before a Judge to answer why she is refusing to provide public information. What she thinks is right and wrong has utterly no bearing on legal reality.

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posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 09:25 PM
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What about Life Insurance claims?

You need a death certificate in order to file a life insurance claim - in this case most would be dependent life insurance but still need a DC & this lady wants to seal them...seems like a lot of effort for nothing.

All the DC gives is the cause & manner of death like "Gunshot" - "Homicide".



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 09:29 PM
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Autopsy reports are also subject to FOIA if I'm not mistaken. Not sure how they could even make a law that denied copies of a public document. If they were produced by tax-paid employees in the course of their public duties. . .



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by Urantia1111
They had all the fake death certs ready to go but the computers were down at Kinko's so they decided it's time to change the laws. Can't understand why this hoax isn't going well.


LOL. Come on get serious. Perhaps it is time to start venturing a theory of the crime? Okay here goes. They have 20 little bodies and 20 death certificates but guess what? Some of the wounds were not made not made by a .223 "long gun." If it's not in the DC it's in the coroner report, so best stop them in their tracks at the DC. If they can deny a DC, they can sure as hell deny an autopsy report.

Which explains Carver's weird performance: "This is the way it is, doc. They were all made by the long gun, right? This is important, we don't want this to happen again, right? you have grandkids, don't you (implied threat.)

Carver thinks what the [snipped] the kids are dead, what does it matter how, Lanza had both a rifle and handguns. But nagging at his mind are a few wounds he doesn't understand. Kill shots made by none of the weapons present. Evidence of multiple shooters. Families don't know this, only that Lanza had all kinds of guns, and nothing will bring their kids back.

Notice the wording of the bill even excludes LE if they don't have a good reason, those best equipped to decipher a coroner report.

Just thinking now, No CT here.



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posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 10:01 PM
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Apologies for any offense taken, but this event has all alarm bells ringing for me and every new piece of the puzzle revealed only makes it worse. It seems most people have been coerced/shamed into complying with the current stated story ie Lanza went nuts and shot up an elementary school by himself. I simply don't buy it and I know that puts me in the same category as a Holocaust denier. Even so, I cannot bs myself.

Feels like they're really scrambling to hold this story together now with this little maneuver.
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posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 10:35 PM
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Just be careful bro, I think there are approved formats of the sandy hook conspiracy you have to stick to.

I would like to take this time to say that I believe the official story, anyone who does not believe in the official story should be silenced or keep their opinions to their selves as a matter of safety for all members of ATS.


With that said the digital journal probably made up the whole story in an effort to get attention. What is the digital journal? I have never heard of it, its not even main stream news. I was looking in the alternative news forum and I couldn't find any stories reported by that site which leads me to believe its probably not a credible source. Maybe try finding a better source for your info like Fox or CNN



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by Superhans
Maybe try finding a better source for your info like Fox or CNN




posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 11:52 PM
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"I hope, uhh, I hope they and I hope uhh the people of Newtown, uhh don't have it crash on their head later" - Dr H. Wayne Carver
Still wonder what he meant by this.
I'm not surprised in the least that they would attempt to conceal public records relating to Sandy Hook, are you?



posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 12:50 AM
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I few things just don't add up........That wacky neighbor and the bus driver who did not call the police. Think about it what would be the first thing you would do?.......call the police.


Also not one of the parents went to view a child in person. Once again what would you do? I would want to view my child.



Multiple suspects still at large this one is really weird and the proof is right in front of all of us.



Adam firing so many rounds in a closed in space without hearing plugs. I am a gun lover and all gun lovers know how loud guns are especially in a closed in space. It would have blown out his eardrums and made him very confused.



This new story is just one more brick in my wall of disbelief something is very wrong with this story and political correctness and compassion will keep us all from the cold hard truth.



posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 01:01 AM
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Originally posted by Superhans
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Just be careful bro, I think there are approved formats of the sandy hook conspiracy you have to stick to.

I would like to take this time to say that I believe the official story, anyone who does not believe in the official story should be silenced or keep their opinions to their selves as a matter of safety for all members of ATS.


With that said the digital journal probably made up the whole story in an effort to get attention. What is the digital journal? I have never heard of it, its not even main stream news. I was looking in the alternative news forum and I couldn't find any stories reported by that site which leads me to believe its probably not a credible source. Maybe try finding a better source for your info like Fox or CNN


I think the Digital Journal article pretty much just sums up what the Newtown Town Clerk and two State reps told the Newtown Bee. You can skip the DJ report and go straight to the Bee:

newtownbee.com...

also the Hartford Courant:
articles.courant.com...



posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 01:14 AM
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putting this with the fact that the families weren't allowed to see the bodies when requested makes the whole thing even fishier.


I believe the official story, anyone who does not believe in the official story should be silenced

orly?

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posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 01:43 AM
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The exact same Coroner that was interviewed at Sandy Hook was actually going to resign as chief medical examiner about a year before Sandy Hook came about. I believe he did resign but stayed a medical examiner still, just not a chief examiner anymore. And he also sent a letter to congress asking to make pediatric patients (children) death information with held from the public. And congress approved of it. Pretty suspicious when a large mass murder case involving over a dozen children comes about only about a year later.

planet.infowars.com...

usahitman.com...

articles.courant.com...

Note: the second link you don't really need to look at, I came across it when I was trying to find a link to what I was talking about, and it's pretty interesting.
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posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 06:54 AM
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No Offense to anyone, but this thread is a really good example of WHY they want to suppress this information from the public. Between people here claiming noone died, psyop, et al, and that awful Cluesforum trying to dredge up every bit of personal info on these poor people, of course they're going to want to keep this private..

I know I would rather than let some rabid conspiracy theory person have my dead child's death certificate, that's just morbid.



posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 07:36 AM
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Sandy Hookers making no sense again.........

If the conspiracy were real they'd just make fake death certificates, it's quite easy.





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