The milk conspiracy, page 1


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Topic started on 21-2-2013 @ 11:15 AM by MerkabaMeditation
Have you noticed that after drinking cow milk you get relaxed and sleepy? It's because milk naturally contain the chemical Tryptophan - a chemical that has seen use as an anti-depressive medicine. In my country the government says you should drink 1 liter (0.26 US gallons) each day for supposed "health benefits", but is it possible that they use milk as a tool for population control - to keep us passive and docile? Drugging us down without us knowing it?


reply posted on 21-2-2013 @ 11:26 AM by littled16
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I have found in recent years that the usual brands of milk not only make me feel full and sleepy but also give me gastrointestinal problems, while organic milk gives me none of these problems. After talking to my physician I have come to the conclusion that it is related to the antibiotics and hormones that they are giving cows nowadays and not a case of a suddenly developed lactose intolerance or any other physical malady. According to my doctor in recent years he has seen an increasing amount of people who are having these same problems that have been easily remedied by having the patients switch to organic dairy products. It makes me wonder what else could be different with cows and/or dairy products in recent times. Maybe GMO feed crops?



reply posted on 21-2-2013 @ 11:30 AM by Bybyots
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Well, that wouldn't make sense in light of the fact that the FDA tried to stomp out supplemental tryptophan in the nineties and everyone cried 'conspiracy' then, too.

I remember that the chief complaint of the complainers was that trptophan had psychoactive properties and that it was being kept from us because of the possible benefits.

Also, milk really has no more tryptophan in it than anything else, yes, it is higher in milk than some foods, but it's not like milk is a dangerous source of the stuff.

The real conspiracy is that it is almost impossible to get real, wholesome milk. When immigrants in my home state try to sell each other fresh, raw milk, they are prosecuted with extreme vengeance.

And? Where's the decent chocolate milk? There's another conspiracy. I have one store in 10 miles that has real chocolate milk.




reply posted on 21-2-2013 @ 11:42 AM by AvisNigra
Originally posted by MerkabaMeditation
Have you noticed that after drinking cow milk you get relaxed and sleepy? It's because milk naturally contain the chemical
Tryptophan - a chemical that has seen use as an anti-depressive medicine. In my country the government says you should drink 1 liter (0.26 US gallons) each day for supposed "health benefits", but is it possible that they use milk as a tool for population control - to keep us passive and docile? Drugging us down without us knowing it?


If you're truly interested in amino acids (e.g. - tryptophan) and the physiology of the blood brain barrier you should read the following journal article:

onlinelibrary.wiley.com...

If you want a slightly friendlier version of the same info you could read the following article from Scientific American by Dr. Boar Zivkovic:

blogs.scientificamerican.com...

In his article he's referring to turkey rather than milk, but the same science applies.

I had a patient several weeks ago that expressed these same concerns and I gave her both of these articles to read as well. Good for you for taking time to better understand your own health and the impact of what we put into our bodies. I don't believe there's any conspiracy at hand here, but educating ourselves is always worthwhile.


reply posted on 21-2-2013 @ 12:02 PM by TheDoctor46
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Maybe you do but a lot of people don't. Fresh food is so expensive in the uk. So most people plug for cheaper alternatives. Money rules the world and peoples eating habits. And most people run round the supermarkets not even checking whats on there labels...ps sounds tasty where you live
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reply posted on 21-2-2013 @ 12:05 PM by crankyoldman
Originally posted by H1ght3chHippie

There is not a single animal on this planet which would ever drink the milk of another species.



That is quite a funny statement. It is made with a large dose of hyperbole, some cynicism and a whole lot of "take that" but it makes no sense. Animals MIGHT drink the milk of another if they could store it - they can't. Animals DO drink the milk of another if they need, one can see animals who have lost a mother suckling another mother of a different species. You could say animals almost never drink mom's milk after reaching the weening stage, but then again humans don't really either. You can say the Cow is a domesticated, even engineered animal, that was created to provide food and milk, not just food, and 150 years ago the animal's products were pure and just fine for most.

When speaking of milk, folks need to refer to Raw, unadulterated milk, versus processed milk. The two are entirely different products, with one having some benefit to some people, the other have little benefit to most people as the lactose protein issue is most often the case with processed. And while it is wonderful to make blanket statements that condemn anyone and anything, one should always understand that in many cases one mans miracle is another poison.

As for the tryptophan issue. The 5-htp is actually needed for mood balance, hormone stabilization and whole bunch of other things, so having it in some milk products is not the same as having fluoride in the water, soda, packaged soup, pasta, juice, all prepackaged foods made with water, rinsed vegies, and of course baths and showers. Nearly all fake sugar products dumb down, as do a great many food products themselves - bread may, corn probably does, hydrogenated oils probable do, and just about all fast food does.


reply posted on 21-2-2013 @ 12:10 PM by AvisNigra
Originally posted by TheDoctor46
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Maybe you do but a lot of people don't.


We hear that each week in our teaching kitchen (run by local chefs, dietitians and physicians). People say they don't have options and that it's too expensive. When we show them that they can literally eat better, healthier and for less than what they spend at McDonald's they usually don't believe us initially. Every single one of us has the same opportunity; it may take more education, more planning or initially more "sweat equity" for some, but we truly do have the same opportunity to eat well.
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