Missing Canadian woman's body found at L.A. hotel

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posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by soaringhawk
I don't see how h4y6d2e can dare say this is a fake story. Some of you live in la la land. It's like saying no one died on 9/11. If you were friends or family of Elisa Lam, would you want someone saying it was fake? It's disgusting.
uhh, where exactly did i say this was a fake story???

i never said anything of the sort. what i DID point out is that some people said it would be impossible to reach the top of the tanks or get in or that you would have to take a ladder to get up there. obviously not. a small-framed dead or alive woman could easily fit in that hatch. maybe not a large fireman trying to hoist an uncooperative bloated body out but she could definitely fit in it. also read that the tanks had no locks on them.

story is OBVIOUSLY true. i just personally don't think it was suicide but then again - the video is *bizarre*.
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posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by AnonyWarp
i think someone from the hotel staff edited the video to hide something
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

I find it sort of funny that she presses like 5 floors worth of buttons, and the elevator doesn't move. Does this mean that a staff member or security guard had the elevator locked from their station? Could that be who she is talking to off camera?

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 10:55 PM
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more pics for you guys:



(picture explains what we are seeing)



aaaaaand apologies in advance but - street view of hotel from google maps (pulled from another site):

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posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by h4y6d2e
more pics for you guys:

aaaaaand apologies in advance but - street view of hotel from google maps (pulled from another site):

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shiiiiaaat


There's got to be something to coincidences !



posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 06:04 AM
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You made it clear that you believe her body was not found in the water tank, that the whole story is fake. Let's quote what you said. There's absolutely nothing at all to make it seem this story is fake. An alarm sounds when the roof is accessed. Going by what we know with the clearly edited video, her behavior, it doesn't take much to see that this is foul play. I really have to disagree with you and I feel your opinion is just so out there and out of touch with the reality. There are some such as on godlike productions, who even tried linking her with the TB outbreak among the homeless. What this family needs is closure, not to have their daughter turned into a story.

The motto of this website is deny ignorance. When we spread rumors, speculation as the gospel truth, it doesn't help us or anyone after truth.


I don't think it looks big at all. In fact, none of this story rings true. Did people say the "video" did not even show her face, that she was looking down and no glasses?

I read about her fb page having been made a short time prior. Oh, how often that seems to be the case these days. Just how neat such a fakeable thing as facebook is the new be all and end all ID backstory for people, these days.

It was interesting when I looked up Cecil Hotel that there was a notorious defunct one by that name in Vancouver, BC. She allegedly WAS from BC, if I am halfway following this story.

Put it all together and, it seems to me the story, as often is the case with the MSM, is it is fake.
A made up story from start to finish.
A lot of films are made in Canada now. The Hollywood of the North, as they say.
Nobody pays much attention to the news now unless it is big news, or strange news or gross news or news of an
increasing macabre nature. Such is the bar raised or lowered depending on your perspective of it.

I will go on record as having stated there was no body (nobody) found in a water tank for which people were drinking and brushing their teeth for days on end, IMO.

But, a diversion for the folks to titter over in the wake of Chris Dorner fiasco storyline, that was a mostly fake story in itself.
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posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 06:27 AM
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I said that. I said in the comments that my reply was with the pictures.
It says PaperbackWriter which you didn't notice.

I stand by that. It seems staged. More so now than ever. I was reading about Aleister Crowley's stay
at the Cecil Hotel in London. I mentioned the significance that the name Cecil Hotel would have to some
British Columbians. The elevator scene also seems a bit overplayed.

I've read that the hotel was virtually empty. It has a certain reputation in it's past. We shall see if there are
any lawsuits from the guest regarding negligence or that the Cecil is shut down.

I was further looking into the Richard Schmelter person. He is a huge figure in online entertainment.
There were other links to this case making it seem like this was directed or filmed intentionally.
Her name seems to be sort of an "invention", as well.

The family in BC seems a little vague to me. If I am mistaken, my humble apologies.
But, the photo of so many "firemen" standing by in the one photo, and no one I might identify as being with
a "body recovery" unit seemed photo-opy, too.

Nothing in the media would surprise me. They lie when the truth would serve as well.



posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 06:32 AM
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I have read on a couple of other sites and I haven't seen it mentioned here at all as of yet. Her name, "Elisa Lam" is the same as an antigen test for TB (Tuberculosis) which is called "Lam Elisa".

The hotel where this happened is in the same neighborhood as the TB outbreak in LA Skid Row.

Los Angeles health officials concerned about TB outbreak

Apparently the TB cases aren't anything new in that area but it is interesting that all of this is coming into the news at the same time.



posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 06:37 AM
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sorry I get you now.
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posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 06:40 AM
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Yes, I read about the name link to TB medical terminology, too.
I think the name is fictitous.

What first got me curious was the big story Huffpo wrote about her being "missing" before she was found.
Missing persons in LA? Oh wow. That almost never happens. See an adult who goes "missing" is tantamount
to a lost dog story in the media MOST of the time. Unless the media wants you to notice it.
It's not the same as lost child. A jillion people leave and move to LA as adults. Or are runaways.
So the Huffpo piece clued me that there was going to be a media sensation surrounding the case.

I just had no idea how off the charts it would be for the media.



posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 06:44 AM
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Originally posted by amraks
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explain why they would hoax this?


Quite a bit of what you are given in the news as "NEWS", is fake. Yellow journalism is alive and well
in these times. The media needs hyped stories to compete when they are obsolete.
Online stories depend on it to get "clicks" and ad revenue. That's just part of the story.
The other is it is a direct funnel for propaganda and psy-op that comes from higher up than the low rung
people who are there to create/fill story space for the media in their competitive world of 24/7 infotainment.



posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by PaperbackWriter

Originally posted by amraks
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explain why they would hoax this?


Quite a bit of what you are given in the news as "NEWS", is fake. Yellow journalism is alive and well
in these times. The media needs hyped stories to compete when they are obsolete.
Online stories depend on it to get "clicks" and ad revenue. That's just part of the story.
The other is it is a direct funnel for propaganda and psy-op that comes from higher up than the low rung
people who are there to create/fill story space for the media in their competitive world of 24/7 infotainment.


Looking back at the girl in the elevator footage. Its been edited and date/time stamps blured. cries now of a manufactured distraction to keep us wondering what the hell she is doing.



posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 08:03 AM
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Getting back on track and assuming this is a legitimate murder mystery:

One thing I haven't seen quoted anywhere else is a comment from another tenant:





Bernard Diaz, 89, who has lived at the Cecil for 32 years, told the LA Times that he heard a 'tremendous' racket on his floor above him the night Lam disappeared.


He said the floor also experience flooding that night.



Full Article

So here is what we don't know:

1. She was found nude. Where were her clothes found?
2. What floor was she staying on? She is seen getting on the elevator on the to floor. Was she staying there? Did she go there with the intention of getting to the roof and perhaps mistakenly thought that the elevator wouold take her there?


My theory is that she was invited to the roof by hotel staff offering a view of the city. She went to the top floor and the staff escorted her through the stairs or possibly out the fire escape. Police have not revealed if there was any trauma. Once on the roof she may have been offered a drink and drugged. She could have been raped there and then dumped in the water tank. I firmly believe it would have taken 2 people to get her body to the top of the tank platform and into the hole in the tank.



posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 08:16 AM
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Then you did it wrong and made it seem as if he wrote it. You need to learn how to write properly. If you really believe the whole story is fake, even when you make it clear you haven't been paying attention to it all, you really are in no place to say anything. You're just a spreader of rumors and no one should listen to you.



posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 08:20 AM
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Hey man, sorry for thinking it was you that said all that. The way you were quoted made it seem you said all that. Apologies to you.

Yeah see, joeandandi, that quote of Bernard Diaz is really disturbing. I look forward to those responsible being found out and brought to justice.
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posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 01:51 PM
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Honestly I believe this Elisa Lam thing is to divert attention away from the whole Chris Dorner story and the LAPD mishaps. There seems to be a lot going on with LA these days, so its not surprising to say the least.



posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 02:24 PM
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Or it could be that L.A in general is trash.



posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 03:36 PM
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Here's an interesting Chinese thread about a potential suspect. (google translated)
translate.google.com...



posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 04:35 PM
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Ya, that's Morbid DoD. He was a guy who made a video from the Cecil Feb 6 of last year. However, the clip itself had something stating "uploaded today" on it. Not sure what that was all about. Anyway, it seems this Morbid fellow has become "internet shy" since people have been trying to link the murder to him. He's pretty much deleted any footprint of himself including FB. Deleted any YT videos.

At first I thought people in the Chinese community were over-reacting because he stayed there. However, reading more in your link, it seems as if this guy actually stayed there and filmed morbid videos for youtube from a hotel room.

This is the people, youtube ID the "Morbid DoD" www.facebook.com...://www.youtube.com/user/lordazmodeus but Internet users have checked this person in December 2012 Cecil Hotel have been admitted because Youtube he has put the movie, the film saw him on the mirror self-timer, and shooting out the window streetscape should be the upper floors of the hotel, imagine what will happen the opposite to see the parking lot but now the movie has been listed as "Private" to prevent other outsiders to see his real face of (Do a guilty conscience?)


Translation isn't the greatest but it looks like this guy Morbid DoD had continued to post videos from the hotel up until jan 28th. Every other link to his videos have all been removed. Sounds suspicious. Why remove your own stuff even if others were commenting. Just stop comments, you don't have to delete all your videos.


Elisa Lam had tumblr said that he is San Diego's most fun is the Man in the hotel, she is likely to line because the hotel to see Morbid in love with him, which is not difficult to explain the whole thing, there can helper notification under LA police anyway to check him, he was too suspicious! I hope as soon as possible to solve the case, I find that the Los Angeles Police Department's e-mail address is lapdonline@gmail.com helper posted away!


So maybe Elisa was up on that floor to meet this guy if she was writing about him in tumblr.



posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 04:50 PM
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www.yourepeat.com...

check this page PLEASE

Morbid DOD aka lordazmodeus

www.vlad666.deviantart.com...

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This is the people, youtube ID the "Morbid DoD" www.facebook.com...://www.youtube.com/user/lordazmodeus but Internet users have checked this person in December 2012 Cecil Hotel have been admitted because Youtube he has put the movie, the film saw him on the mirror self-timer, and shooting out the window streetscape should be the upper floors of the hotel, imagine what will happen the opposite to see the parking lot but now the movie has been listed as "Private" to prevent other outsiders to see his real face of (Do a guilty conscience?)

If conscious innocence, Why should immediately delete the videos of their stay Cecil Hotel, do not give to see him look even more amazing to see his old videos, even ultra-large number of the same cult ceremony. Upload date :2009-01-07Experimental ambient dark) fragments, which have an undeleted delete suspected He Cecil hotel shoot videos of his evil friends still in to youtube the above ( www.youtube.com... ? v = W-tgUaLETHk Upload date :2010-03) into the surface to see the white window Cecil hotel decoration.

There are two movie more frightening for some back the Black Dahlia protagonist photos ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF9NMtxiGlI Published :2013-01-28) upload Upload the day turned out to be: blue child was last seen ! 2013-01-28 him on youtube write live New Project! New tasks! Is he at the time, having to start going to kill blue children?
The second paragraph of men clown gives kill www.youtube.com... , fragment mouth blood dehiscence, bleeding! The Black Dahlia Elizabeth Short died appearance.

I do not know Morbid cult activists, has always wanted to the analog Black Dahlia events, like murder, often Check Cecil hotel, also familiar with the Cecil hotel rooftop. If he did, the whole thing is a good explanation, because his own guy, engage in the arts, Elisa Lam had tumblr said that he is San Diego's most fun is the Man in the hotel, she is likely to line because the hotel to see Morbid in love with him, which is not difficult to explain the whole thing, there can helper notification under LA police anyway to check him, he was too suspicious! I hope as soon as possible to solve the case, I find that the Los Angeles Police Department's e-mail address is lapdonline@gmail.com helper posted away!

translated from tieba.baidu.com...
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posted on Feb, 25 2013 @ 05:04 PM
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Not bad!
Yup, that's the guy. The Chinese community had him in their sights days ago and it looks like he literally packed up and left town. Something is very suspicious about this guy.
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