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Originally posted by luciddream
Originally posted by jimmiec
There are tons of jobs out there for trade skills. If you were to go straight from high school into trade school and obtain a skill you would be employed. Apparently getting your hands dirty equates to being stupid today. You can make 100k a year in a trade. The key to success is excellence. Get a trade skill, there are plenty of good paying jobs out there for skilled workers.
Trade is looked down upon, by the educated class, including my family, so i was "forced" to get my degree. Its a norm in my family for couple of generation now, higher education is priority.
The thing about trade is that, it would start you off high(55k), you can slightly improve(65-80k) but you will reach a cap(120k). Unlike Degrees, which starts you off in the middle(50k) you can keep climbing, and it will go for very high level..could reach 200k+ in 5-10yrs.
And the biggest off all, degree jobs are usually easy job... desk job or very minute physical job, unlike trades, which are very high demanding of a healthy body.
Originally posted by Pladuim
Just want to throw this in here. I work on a drilling rig and a few times we have picked up someone with a "college degree". One of the guys, after a months training on equipment was totally lost, stayed on the phone, didn't pay attention to the equipment etc, etc. He finally got ran off one day after spilling 30 barrels of diesel fuel. .
Originally posted by Phoenix
My last years salary before early retirement was $95,000 + not rich but not bad either, of course I deployed all that money not on debt service but to build wealth and today I own all my homes and auto's free and clear and have no CC debt. I pay cash for everything. I am not a debt slave and feel for you folks who were hoodwinked into what you are caught up in.
Never make fun of your plumber, A/C tech or other skilled tradesman is my advice, he's better off than you will ever be most likely and they actually have in their pocket needed skills not make-work skills like most out there.
Originally posted by rickymouse
The people who went to college at great expense and wound up as managers of Subway or other jobs where a degree is not needed feel that if they went through this expense to get a lousy job than everyone needs to. How would it look if someone without any college worked their way to the top of Subway.
Subway is just an example, the same thing is going on all over the country. People of a kind think alike and take care of their own. This trait of humanity has been around for a long time. It has gotten out of hand in our society as it has in other parts of the world. Societies have gone astray, now they want to raise the minimum wage so these college grads working at Subway can pay back their loans. Our education system has major flaws, most jobs available here in America do not need a college education. On the job training would be better, being that I was an employer I know this as fact. People with degrees do not work in the trades as well as the person with a high school education most times, the people with degrees feel they are entitled to more money because of their expenditures. Quality of work and productivity should govern wage, not education.