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Muslim Accused Of Beheading 2 Christians In The US

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posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:26 PM
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Torture, persecution of faithful no longer reserved for Islamic nations
Authorities in New Jersey allege a Muslim man beheaded two Coptic Christians, burying their bodies and heads and hands in separate graves near Philadelphia, bringing the horror of the persecution of Christians in Islamic nations to the United States.
According to New York’s WABC-TV, the Muslim was identified as Yusuf Ibrahim, 28. He was taken into custody after the bodies were found.
The report said investigators alleged Ibrahim killed the victims then severed their heads and hands, and buried the remains in the back yard of a home in Buena Vista, N.J.
The report said the victims were from the Coptic Christian community in the area. One of the victims had come from Egypt not many years ago.
While the report said police did not indicate a motive, friends of the victims wondered if it was something to do with religion.
WABC reporter Jeff Pegues wrote: “To members of the close knit Coptic Orthodox church the pain is real.”
“It’s a shock, something like this doesn’t happen to people like that,” one resident told him.
The report said police described the suspect as “ruthless” and “calculating” and said he belongs behind bars.
Pamela Geller, who blogs about Islam at Atlas Shrugs, said it “appear have been a ritual killing, religious in nature.”
“The victims were Coptic Christians and the murderer was Muslim (and we are painfully aware of the status and treatment of Coptic Christians under Muslim rule in Egypt),” she wrote.
“The killing evokes this passage in the Quran: ‘When thy Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast into the unbelievers’ hearts terror; so smite above the necks, and smite every finger of them!” – Quran 8:12.”
Samy Hohareb, a friend of the victims, said, “I leave it for the police and the investigation.”
The New York Daily News reported Ibrahim was nabbed by detectives on Sunday after the bodies were found.
Authorities said the suspect was found driving a white Mercedes Benz that belonged to one of the victims.
Ibrahim was being held at the Atlantic County jail on charges of murder and desecration of human remains.
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posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:32 PM
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Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't there around 1.4M Muslims in the US? And they have this much power? ... thank you, Obama & all the other 'Alphabet' news( ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN -- did I miss any? -- oh YEAH -- David Letterman and all HIS followers, etc., etc., etc. . . !!



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:38 PM
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If it was a muslim that beheaded 2 Jews it would have been labeled a hate crime and made national and international news.
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posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by Surfrat
Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't there around 1.4M Muslims in the US? And they have this much power? ... thank you, Obama & all the other 'Alphabet' news( ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN -- did I miss any? -- oh YEAH -- David Letterman and all HIS followers, etc., etc., etc. . . !!


And they have this much power what power? I hope you don't mean the media because those people follow a different faith. But this is America we have had people murdering other people in the name of their faith since the beginning. To try to use this as an excuse that Sharai law will take over in the states is laughable. The Christians have been trying for over two hundred years and haven't been able to do it what makes you think the Muslims can do better?

Hopefully he will get the death sentence.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:50 PM
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Other than your racist blog there are absolutely zero reliable news organizations suggesting that the alleged killer was Muslim.


Authorities said Ibrahim shot the two men, ages 25 and 27, in the chest during a dispute inside a white Mercedes Benz belonging to one of the victims in Jersey City sometime last week. The State Police declined to say how the men were related other than that they were acquaintances.



Wilson said Ibrahim was already wanted by authorities in Jersey City in connection to an armed robbery last year.


So religiously motivated or just another dirtbag?



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:52 PM
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The fact that he's Muslim is of no relevance. If guilty, he's a zealot, an idiot, and a murderer who should incur the full wrath of the law. All the rest is just distraction and noise.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 10:00 PM
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Explanation: Uhmmm?


I just noticed that the linked article implies that he is a muslim via hearsay ...


Update: Muslim former roommate suggests Christians to blame for Muslim killing & beheading them

Abdelrehim said Ibrahim came to the United States from Egypt when he was a child and worked as a waiter, construction worker and at other jobs.

“When I opened my door to him there was no violence, nothing that would make you suspect he would harm anyone . . . I never saw him with a gun or with any weapon,” said Abdelrehim. “Maybe it was the victims’ gun. Maybe it was self-defense.”

She described Ibrahim as being Muslim but not particularly religious. He liked to play basketball, was “a grown man, but a kid in spirit,” and he could always bring a smile to a person’s face, she said.


So far there is no hard evidence as to his religious convictions and I feel it is very important to quench any MSM story that runs on hearsay with the motive of making money off of emotionally driven hot button social issues.

Personal Disclosure: Until hard evidence comes to light I find this wedge issue to be a beatup story. :shk:


edit on 19-2-2013 by OmegaLogos because: Edited to fix spelling.

edit on 19-2-2013 by OmegaLogos because: Edited for same reason as above.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 10:24 PM
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Yusuf Ibrahim, N.J. man, accused of decapitating two men and burying them in the woods
(AP) HAMILTON TOWNSHIP, N.J. - A New Jersey man is accused of fatally shooting two men in a parked car, cutting off their heads and hands and burying them in the woods in south Jersey.
Twenty-eight-year-old Yusuf Ibrahim was arrested Sunday in a Bayonne apartment following a saga that played out in multiple locations. He's charged with two counts each of murder and desecration of human remains
State Police say Ibrahim shot and killed two men he knew during an argument in a car in Jersey City sometime after Feb. 3 and later dismembered them. Authorities say he wanted to make them harder to identify and buried their heads and feet separately from their bodies.
All the parts were found by a cadaver dog in Buena Vista Township after authorities there received a tip.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 10:26 PM
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I agree, get rid of the noise, the headline would be.

2 People Beheaded in the United States.

Not sensational enough to get people upset enough to read their story, gotta add some race and religion.

Two people got their heads chopped off. Sad indeed.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 10:26 PM
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hmmm, that's an interesting series of statements regarding a very tragic event.
i wonder which of them are actually true ?



"Maybe it was the victims’ gun."
OPs link
maybe and perhaps it wasn't.
however ...

when does ...


"Maybe it was self-defense.”

include ...


then severed their heads and hands, and buried the remains in the back yard of a home in Buena Vista, N.J.

... ^ that ^ i find troubling indeed.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 10:30 PM
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Egyptian native 'shot two men dead, cut off their heads and hands and buried them in separate shallow graves'
By Rachel Quigley
PUBLISHED:08:55 EST, 12 February 2013| UPDATED:08:55 EST, 12 February 2013
A 28-year-old man shot dead two men during an argument, chopped off their heads and hands and buried them in separate spots, police said today.
Yusuf Ibrahim, an Egyptian native who lives in New Jersey, was arrested on Sunday in connection with the brutal double murder and charged with two counts of murder and desecration of human remains.
According to the arrest warrant, Ibrahim argued with the two men - aged 25 and 27 - who he knew in a parked car behind a Buena Vista home around February 3.
Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 11:26 PM
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An Ex Australian Army soldier beheaded a 50 yr old man in his kitchen chair last year.. It happens, he is also behind bars. Don't blame Muslims for the act of one psychopath..



posted on Feb, 20 2013 @ 12:19 AM
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When I read this article, I don't see religious extremism. I see a run of the mill organized crime killing.

I have never heard of a Muslim severing someone's hands as part of a religious execution. Severing one hand, perhaps, as punishment for thievery. Cutting off someone's head, yes, common practice for religious executions. But severing someone's head AND both of their hands? No. That is an underworld hit, and the head and hands are all buried separately so that the body, the largest part and therefore the part most likely to be found, is harder to identify. That is all, it is removing the face, the dental work, and the fingerprints from a corpse which is pretty likely going to be found. It stymies detectives for a while.

Not to mention, these guys were all sitting in a Mercedes Benz together, and the supposedly Muslim one shoots the two supposedly Christian ones... and then disposes of them in efficient underworld fashion? No, this was not religiously motivated. I'm thinking heroin deal gone bad.

I'm also thinking the scumbag is probably not Muslim, but rather Israeli. (disclaimer: no I am not an anti-semite)
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posted on Feb, 20 2013 @ 12:20 AM
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Well, at least they didn't label him as "mentally ill" with an assault rifle with a 30 clip round.



posted on Feb, 20 2013 @ 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by Happy1
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Well, at least they didn't label him as "mentally ill" with an assault rifle with a 30 clip round.


I don't think they had time to because they couldn't catch him
His survival skills kept him in good stead for a little while.
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posted on Feb, 20 2013 @ 12:37 AM
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Oh, then maybe the MSM will label him a prepper, and a terrorist.

Not a dirtbag, as everyone else sees him as.



posted on Feb, 20 2013 @ 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by links234
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Other than your racist blog there are absolutely zero reliable news organizations suggesting that the alleged killer was Muslim.


Authorities said Ibrahim shot the two men, ages 25 and 27, in the chest during a dispute inside a white Mercedes Benz belonging to one of the victims in Jersey City sometime last week. The State Police declined to say how the men were related other than that they were acquaintances.



Wilson said Ibrahim was already wanted by authorities in Jersey City in connection to an armed robbery last year.


So religiously motivated or just another dirtbag?


OK how about: www.wnd.com...
I didn't see a Blog or a Racist Blog at all.


Other than your racist blog

Link to the Racist Blog Please.

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posted on Feb, 20 2013 @ 03:17 AM
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Stop being a racist bigot, OP. And stop posting from racist blogs.

you're a racist if you ever say anything but good things about islam.

Ohh they can talk about pedophile priests till the sun explodes. That's an acceptable fact.

But you dare say someone beheads someone, you better just stop the racist agenda.

it's so obvious you're a racist. Racism like this will not be tolerated.



posted on Feb, 20 2013 @ 03:24 AM
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yikes! if i was an american hindu or a sikh then i would be locking my door and getting out the guns!



posted on Feb, 20 2013 @ 03:52 AM
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having read more of the thread after my initial quip, i wondered at the so-called rascist blog that is the source given in the op. racist blog? well, actually, i pretty much gotta agree - the various pics and links, "religion of peace" being a prime example are famously one-eyed and full of propaganda. there are other links to MSM but there are some differences in reporting style. the most glaring one is that the victims are described as coptic christians in the "creepingsharia" article but no where else in linked/sourced stories. so where did creepingsharia get this info on the religion of the victims as there seems to be no source or trail for this information....

i'll speculate..... the point of the blog is to highlight division and conflict as that matches it's agenda. so a non religious man of egyptian birth who is nominally muslim due to this becomes a "muslim" for the sake of the report. elsewhere he is just a man, an egyptian etc etc. he also has tattoos, now i believe that allah says muslims should not have these?
then we have some men of foreign descent who have been murdered, so the writer of the article creates a coptic background for them as it sounds plausible due to ethnicity and again highlights division and religious conflict. no source for them being coptic christians except the blog = made up for the sake of the agenda.

so, "crazy dude kills and chops up people" becomes "muslim beheads christians!"

nice work



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