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Originally posted by MamaJ
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by MamaJ
It would be nice if the human race would come together without a major catastrophe.
It would be nice for any existing god to rear its ugly head and present a nice target for our frustrations. Either claim the world you care for so deeply, or stop letting your pet devil have its way with us.
He has shown himself... some just don't look to see. The pet devil is the ignorance of man, nothing more.
reply to post by Deetermined
Without suffering we would never know the true meaning of joy and happiness, much less appreciate it. Here's how I see it. If a third of God's angels are capable of using their free will to fall from heaven after living and experiencing a perfect environment, why would we think that all would be perfect on earth if we were to experience the same?
Technically speaking, everything that happens is a part of God's overall plan, but do not assume that everything is God's work. God allows the work of Satan to influence our lives and usually he allows Satan to do it in hopes that it will bring us back closer to God. God does not use scare tactics and you don't have to piss him off in order for him to allow you an experience by other spirits to help you better understand what he wants from you.
It sure would help if you shared your most recent "coincidence" in detail so we could all help in breaking it down and deciphering it's meaning.
How many did "Satan" kill? Huh?
That depends on how you look at it. If it wasn't for the influence of Satan, none of us would be experiencing a human death to begin with.
reply to post by Deetermined
Yes, God created Satan. Yes, God allowed Satan to deceive us. However, we have to understand that God allows both good and evil so that we're able to tell the difference. Now we just have to choose which path we're going to continue to follow.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by MamaJ
That's the point I've been making. For someone who is so almighty and powerful, for someone so perfect, "God" acts a lot like the militant politicians often spotted around the DC area...
edit on 21-2-2013 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TheBlackHat
Thanks for all the responses. I was brought up Christian, but I never believed in the Biblical Jesus who brought Lazarus back from the dead etc, for whatever reason I found it all as far fetched as the tooth fairy. Probably because when your a kid you grow up and find out lots of the things your taught to believe in turn out to be fairy tales..and the things Jesus did are just as believable as santa clause delivering presents to every kid in the world in one night, with flying reindeer. So that's how it is with religion and me, and many other people too. But God was a different thing, I took it for granted that there was an all seeing, all knowing God, regardless of religion. And I took it that God would look out for his people...So I had faith in God...even up until recent years. I pretty much lived a Christian life always, not perfect but was close more often than not...So I believed in being a "good person", not because of religion, but just because it kept me from getting into loads of trouble..so being a christian was simply the practicle way to go..but drama and trouble invade my life repeatedly, even though I do my best to live a quiet life...and this is whats bothering me. I often feel like I am being pushed towards disaster. Today something else happened, another "coincidence" ....Imagine you had a life long fear of bats, for instance, and today one flew in through your window..that inst what happened, but the point is my fears are being made real, specific and bizzare things, which I am seeing happen this last few years and this last few days too. Someone is watching over me now, and putting these events into motion, and as I know that only God has that much influence I must assume its Gods work. I must have pissed him off a lot, without realizing it. Either that or someone put a lot of effort into cursing me..and if thats true..then surley God could break this curse now. its been 4 years already...edit on 20-2-2013 by TheBlackHat because: (no reason given)
I understand I was raised Christians went to Sunday school, your right it was as if they were competing between Jesus and Santa. Not until a pastor challenged me in my shallow knowledge of the bible did I realize my faith was being marginalized by a religious mindset that was trying to make Jesus and God this tangible yet mystical idea.
I too was a good kid, feared God, never got into trouble, but God without Jesus is not complete. The hope is found In Jesus. The Old Testament God is always pointing to a savior, a hope. Every story hints to Jesus, the Messiah. Unfortunately for you me and most who went to church, Jesus was marginalized and chalked up to a neat story. The church has a way of replacing the power of Gods word with its own power. Don't settle for that. Look into the bible and read it for yourself. No pastor, no religion need to explains things to you. Im encouraging you to just get some clarity on who Jesus is and what he means to you and your understanding of how God works.
I honestly feel for you and understand it seems you can't win, my life even inside of Christ sometime feels that way. God is not a genie who will take away all you trouble if you act really nice. S#it still happens, it happens to me too.
Having the power or the perspective to see through the pain to the end is what Jesus has done for me.
Originally posted by MamaJ
Its a shame so many follow word for word a book written by men.
The Lord will command His angels to take good care of you. They will lift you up in their hands. - Psalm 91:11-12
Jesus answered, "It is written: ‘One does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God'" (Matthew 4:4)
The Bible is proven as the word of God by the fulfillment of Bible prophesies. It is mathematically impossible for all of these prophesies to have just happened by chance. This proves that the people that wrote the Bible were inspired by God, for only God could accurately foretell the future, in detail 100% of the time. Source
"Perhaps the most compelling of evidences demonstrating that the Bible is the word of God is its unswerving ability to accurately predict future events, often in minute details. Specific prophesies are conspicuously absent from the 26 other religious books that claim to be scripture, including the Muslim's Koran, the Book of Mormon, the Hindu Vedas, and Buddhist writings. This in itself should be a major eye-opener to the honest skeptic. " Accuracy Of Prophecy
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
Oh, look at all that proof you don't have...
Come back when you have some evidence.
Apparently Satan's not the ONLY one that can’t stand the truth...