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posted on Feb, 20 2013 @ 08:47 PM
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They haven't been charged because it will upset the power elites stranglehold on the country. Obama definitely doesn't have the brass or inclination.




posted on Feb, 20 2013 @ 08:50 PM
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posted on Feb, 20 2013 @ 09:25 PM
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I do completely agree TPTB are evil and agenda driven, but as memory serves: Iraq, with the 4th largest army invaded Kuwait, raped, killed, burned and attempted annexation of this small country. After the many countries military ran them back north, the UN set santions (17 times I believe) to no avail. he kicked out inspectors time and again while gassing and murdering the Kurds in northern iraq (mustard gas is a WMD listed agent) Truck after truck was reported scrambeling to Syria, and whatever secret cargo was in them was theorized Russian made( maybe vodka) As the powers that did not complete the defeat of the hussien government after desert storm, instead of wiping out the complete structure and triggering a vacuum of power for Iran to take, it was clear to most that he had to go. The iraq war was a legal and congress approved war, Intel or not, we were justified in the act for what he did and his actions after the retreat. Rumsfeld, and the helmsmen had their issues, and I will not justify any of that, But the war basically was a finishing of a job where every benefit of the doubt was completely exhausted.



posted on Feb, 20 2013 @ 10:25 PM
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Let me know when the marsians land so I can great my fellow socialists.


?

ok other than that, what catergory would you place Barack in terms of being Marxist or being Capitalist? Because he's definitely a globalist and definitely a Marxist.

Soros is using the Capitalist system to make money which he then pumps into his leftist, radical, and socialist organizations and programs. The Democrat Party has become the defacto socialist party in the US, and Soros owns the Democrat Party these days. MoveOn is a Soros creation and definitely Progressive.

Obama is just as much into war as the Bush admin.

Libya, Syria, more troops in Afghanistan ring a bell?

www.infowars.com...

Progressives refuse to own Obama's warmongering even though they elected him for a second term.

I think there is some kind of strange split in the thinking of Progressives.
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posted on Feb, 20 2013 @ 10:43 PM
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Well that really explains a lot about Colin Powell. I really liked him. He has a conscious. He went along with it though. So sad. Sure there's probably more, but that's enough.


Colin Powell jumped from supporting one warmongering admin to the next. He is concerned with who is in power, and I guess Obama's ummmmm ethnicity is a big plus.

How else would one explain his behavior? How else would you explain his defense of the WMD declaration of Bush and then running to the Obama admin and supporting bombing Libya without Congressional approval? He comes off as a person who supports illicit govt activity with wars.



posted on Feb, 20 2013 @ 10:47 PM
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As a Brit I would like to add tony bliar to the list, A war criminal without a doubt, Now hes a peace envoy for the middle east? what a joke.



posted on Feb, 20 2013 @ 10:52 PM
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Is a man not allowed the fruits of his labour?

Does a man not have to eat?

Do you expect someone to put the time and effort into creating a book and not be able to support himself?

Jeesh grow up



posted on Feb, 20 2013 @ 11:24 PM
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I rage deep down with you friend. Our entire government needs to b cleansed and we need new folks running this country people who r 4 the people. And we all know there is only 1 way for that to happen. That is y the DHS isbuying up all the Ammo. Now in CA as we speak they r in the midst of banning hollow point bullets claiming them to b so called ASSAULT BULLETS u know the same bullets your actually supposed to use for home protection so they won't penetrate threw walls after hitting your target. They say they should be banned for civilians because a hollow pointed bullets intentions r to kill. LMAO because no other bullet was designed for killing!?! That is the type of bs we put up with in CA and when I say we I do not mean I its Hollywood its the media its the teachers its the unions. Wat these groups don't realize is that this is Communism. At its finest. Wat these hollywood morons don't realize is that their isn't a Sylvester Stallone from Russia living in Russia their is no Tom Cruises in Cuba their is none of these morons in any communist country because communism eliminates competition well should I say exterminates that's probably more appropriate. So when Jay Z and Beyonce endorses u know who its only a matter of time until we say bye bye too them or maybe they'll learn to b slaves just like the rest of us. Good luck everyone please b kind to your neighbors always do wats right always help the weak that is y we r stronger than all the other Countries out their but we won't b 4 too much longer I'm Afraid
I am deeply saddened
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posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 12:08 AM
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If you have netflix watch "Burma VJ" for a lesson on why disarming a population is dangerous. Know you understand but this is for anyone on the fence or looking for more information or examples. Some guns sure would help the Burmese.



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 12:21 AM
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Bush and his staff are all criminals in my book. But guess what so is Obama and his staff. That is right they are one in the same.


I wonder what happened to all the liberals who were anti-war. Maybe there morals and high ground is flapping in the wind like a paper bag. We sit and champion our side and point the fingers but at the end of the day the fingers should all point back to our never ending apathy of heart and mind.



It is time for the common people on both sides to finally wake up and see the lies on top of lies. You have been fooled by the progressive scum that are better known as TPTB.
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posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 12:29 AM
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There was this quote I saw on a thread here about a month back, supposedly from an NSA employee that read something along the lines of: When people are completely confused by the constant flood of vast information (lies and disinformation) , and no longer can tell the difference between what is true and what is not, will our agenda be complete.

...Like saying that almost everyone will become completely lost about what is even going on in this world

Kinda like to the extent that people will think down is up and up is down sort of deal, and even to the extent that up doesn't really exist and it's actually been diagonal all along due to so many lies being told for so long
(just my little additional explanation there)

The quote didn't say those exact words by any means, but that is pretty much what I remember it saying in a nutshell

Does anybody else know about this quote or where to find it?

I knew I should have scooped it up into a document when I seen it. I even remember telling myself to until I just moved onto reading some more stuff. Now it's lost.
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posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 02:27 AM
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didnt really need "proof" i was sold years ago it was a lie when

1 we said we were going for weapons of mass destruction

2 no weapons of mass destruction were ever found

3 no connection what so ever to 9/11

4 and yet we are still there. heh

5 to this day the "official" story has stated up and down THERE WERE NO BOMBS USED ON 9/11,
then why did they install bomb scanners at all the airport after 9/11. shouldnt we have better BOX CUTTER SCANNERS?

p.s infact i dont think it even matters anymore and might just give up conspiracy sites heh starting to become a joke anyway after the whole thread closed on anything sandy hook lol, wow way to seek out the truth lol

nothing will ever come of any of this or half the other smoking guns we pull up , why? because 90% of the people we would call upon to put them in jail are on the take to.

so really the only real way anything will get done is someone walking up to a key figure and putting a bullet between his eye, or hers and continuing down the line till no more corrupt people,

THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN ON A GRAND SCALE

hence nothing will ever come of 9/11, iraq, afghans, sandy hook, aurora, waco, titanic, fake ww2 and the list of self induced terror plots then, now and future to come.

look at jfk, we obviously know who the major players are thats why there is a 70+ year ban, to make sure all the good ol boys we patted on the back for a good job done are dead and no harm can come to them.

and now that they realise the masses really are just mindless cattle that will believe anything on tv (sandy hook)(10+ YEARS CHASING ONE MAN COSTING OVER 7.1 TRILLION DOLLARS) that they will continue this over and over again.
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posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 03:34 AM
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Obumba is bush with a black face.
In fact he is worse than bush with the drone chit murdering americans.

Remember politics is the art of truthful deception.
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posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 04:34 AM
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I will post this one more time for the people who skipped over this. Read it and stop posting about all the war crime baby stuff. And reasons wich the general public was told. If you do not understand then you really have no clue.


If people have not figured out by now the real reason by now. Here it is.
The United States has a giant air base with unlimited fuel. Right smack in the Middle East. In the 80's. it took 8hrs to fly to Iran. Now...we make a call like a chinese take out joint. Be there in 10 minute...

You really think for a second we are gonna give up a game changer like that?



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by cenpuppie
Didn't Rome go through this same phase before it broke apart?





Rome taught us a great many things. What they did to traitors was a display in darkside creativity that would certainly solve the problem of the miscreants in Washington today.



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 12:30 PM
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So people from Texas started a war for oil. That's just crazy. Next your gonna tell me they set it all up by running planes into a building.



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

ok other than that, what catergory would you place Barack in terms of being Marxist or being Capitalist? Because he's definitely a globalist and definitely a Marxist.


He is a traditional liberal and liberals are for a big capitalist "selective enforcement" government.



Soros is using the Capitalist system to make money which he then pumps into his leftist, radical, and socialist organizations and programs.


Who cares about soros? He can claim anything he wants but it does not make it true. His actions betray his words tenfold. Isn't it obvious?


The Democrat Party has become the defacto socialist party in the US, and Soros owns the Democrat Party these days. MoveOn is a Soros creation and definitely Progressive.


Last time I heard it was the rockefellers who owned the democrat party.


Obama is just as much into war as the Bush admin.

Libya, Syria, more troops in Afghanistan ring a bell?

www.infowars.com...


no he is worse than bush, both in terms of starting more wars, continuing the old wars, and giving 5 times more bailouts to big business than bush did in his 8 years. Obama just started his second term and he is looking worse than ronald reagan.


Progressives refuse to own Obama's warmongering even though they elected him for a second term.

I think there is some kind of strange split in the thinking of Progressives.
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I didn't vote for him so I have no guilty conscious. But to be perfectly honest with you I think he was a much better choice than the duplicitious romney. Even netanyahou claimed that romney was their man.



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 02:27 PM
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I liked the first bullet on the opening page: Focus on WMD.




posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 02:35 PM
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“You had to choose between war and dishonor, you chose dishonor, you will have war”

Winston Churchill



posted on Feb, 21 2013 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by ratpunk
I will post this one more time for the people who skipped over this. Read it and stop posting about all the war crime baby stuff. And reasons wich the general public was told. If you do not understand then you really have no clue.


If people have not figured out by now the real reason by now. Here it is.
The United States has a giant air base with unlimited fuel. Right smack in the Middle East. In the 80's. it took 8hrs to fly to Iran. Now...we make a call like a chinese take out joint. Be there in 10 minute...

You really think for a second we are gonna give up a game changer like that?


I have plenty of clues, but you don't. Empire building on earth is becoming dangerous and futile. We invaded iraq and afghanistan and the american people got nothing in return. Gas prices tripled within 15 years when they were supposed to drop to $20 a barrel.

I also know we have been running trade deficits with china, malaysia, taiwan, korea, india for 2 decades now with no signs of hope. The government has sold out lock, stock and barrel to wall street speculators who in turn get inside trader information and make record profits on the backs of the gullible public.

The petro dollar is absolute bs! You don't make your economy strong by spending into oblivion for military campaigns and giving trillions in bailouts to business who offshore like crazy. You impose protectionist measures so you can collect the taxes that should be collected and people can be fully employed.

You sound like a globalist puppet to me and your veil is very thin indeed. Not fooling anyone!





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