China loves the US dollar again as America roars back

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posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 02:57 PM
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The head of China's central bank, has stated that dollar will remain the global reserve currency in the coming decades.

This marks an apparent departure from Premier Wen Jiabao's 2005 statements when he questioned the safety of US treasuries and called for a global currency to replace the US dollar.

It is true that the USA's increased production of shale oil and gas has radically reduced the US's reliance on imported energy and has the potential to greatly alter the balance of power globally.


Jin Zhongxia, head of the central bank’s research institute, said America’s energy revolution and export revival had shaken up the global landscape and would lead to a stronger dollar over time. “The dollar’s global dominance will continue,” he said.

A report by Citigroup said the explosive growth of US oil and gas output over the past year had exceeded the “wildest dreams of energy analysts”. The US has halved its oil imports since 2005 and is moving “rapidly towards self-sufficiency”, turning global geo-politics on its head.

The advantage is shifting back to the US. A so-called “manufacturing renaissance” is under way as US companies bring home plants to exploit cheap shale gas and lower transport costs.

The Telegraph


As Mark Twain said, "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated." There is little doubt that shale gas and the cutting of oil imports is a geopolitical game changer for the USA.

On the other hand, the Chinese do tend to follow the Maxims, "If you are near, appear far away. If you are strong, appear weak. If you plan to attack, appear as if you plan to defend".

The Art of War by Sun Tzu

In other words, the head of China's central bank stating that he expects the Dollar to remain the world's reserve currency for the coming decades should not be taken at face value.


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posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:00 PM
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It's too bad the "lower" cost of oil being in USA doesn't funnel down to the people buying it!!

Gas prices are still about the highest ever, so what confidence does this give people to have oil come from the USA?

All a scam for the government to make tons of money and laugh all the way to the bank.....



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:06 PM
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Roars back to where ? Way back ?
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posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:09 PM
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Hmmm...you are wise to take what the Chinese say with a grain of salt.

Too many talking heads and pundits are saying "happy days are here again", and "the stock market is at an all-time high', blah blah blah. They tend to do this to try and get people suckered back into the market, to try and boost their confidence in order to get them to loosen their purse strings and go long on stocks.

The sad thing about this is, things seem to be heading towards a bubble, and like all bubbles, when they get too big, they pop.

Right now, the markets are flying high. Too high, if you ask me, considering the state of everything else. The stock market appears to be completely disconnected from reality.

The prices of crude oil, and eventually gasoline, are ripping to the upside. It will be hitting the pumps soon enough, and people are going to get very upset when they fill up their vehicles. Good for the oil companies and associated industries, bad for the average person who's wages are not going up to match inflation. Gone grocery shopping lately??

Be careful of these loud "roars". Too much stock manipulation, not enough reality checks. The Chinese know this as well.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:10 PM
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I call BS! Open your eyes and look around you. Do you see ANYTHING going on that indicates economic or employment growth? Don't know about you but I am done with being miss led and outright lied to!



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:11 PM
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It is true that the USA's increased production of shale oil and gas has radically reduced the US's reliance on imported energy and has the potential to greatly alter the balance of power globally.


While this statement is true.
Don't expect oil prices to go down.

The oil is expensive to get out of the ground. At current prices they are making a profit.
If the price goes down then they would scale back production. And then price would rise again.
It's a catch 22



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:14 PM
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This sounds like a ploy to me.

This is a big departure from its stance just 4 short months ago.


China is actively taking steps to phase out the US dollar which will decrease volatility in oil and commodity prices and deride the ‘exorbitant privilege' the USA commands as the issuer of the reserve currency at the centre of a post-war international financial architecture which is now failing.



China is frustrated with what it sees as the US government’s mismanagement of the dollar, and is now actively promoting the cross-border use of its own currency, the yuan, or also called the renminbi, in trade and investment.
ZeroHedge



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by FissionSurplus
Hmmm...you are wise to take what the Chinese say with a grain of salt.



The Chinese and the USA are at economic war.

If I was holding over a Trillion dollars in US treasury bonds, I would also be tempted to talk their value up.

Especially if I was planning on quietly getting out of US treasury bonds or even dumping them on the market.

Fact is, the Americans have successfully exported inflation to China (via quantitative easing - printing money to you and I) pushing up Chinese production costs while simultaneously weakening their own currency to help US exports.

The Chinese are not happy.

Expect them to be all smiles.


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posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:19 PM
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On top of this, the obozo administration is allowing the chinese to set up banks in america, and allowing them to buy large tracts of land - there was a report about how many foreclosed homes the chinese are buying up.

Invasion - aided by the communist in control in amerika.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:20 PM
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Hasnt China got the biggest reserves of $US?

Maybe theyre trying to convince others its a good bet so they can dump theirs without losing a bundle.

Besides the US at the moment China has the most to lose it if dies



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:22 PM
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a positive news story on the state of the american dollar? alot of people that were hoping for the demise of america for whatever reasons, are not going to be happy with this. lol i hope this report is true and that our economy will get back on track because times have been tough and americans have been at each others throats for some time now. bring down the price of gas and bring jobs/benefits/pensions back!!!



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:25 PM
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Strange things from china considering that they along with Russia are buying up huge amounts of gold despite record prices. Id say China is saying one thing and doing another!



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by conspiracy nut
a positive news story on the state of the american dollar? alot of people that were hoping for the demise of america for whatever reasons, are not going to be happy with this.

i hope this report is true and that our economy will get back on track


I think you will find that there is plenty of fight left in the USA.

It is also too easy to forget that China has its own economic problems:

- Massive local government borrowing
- An inexhaustible labor supply that has now been exhausted leading to ever rising wages &
- An economic growth model based on an unsustainable level of exports and fixed asset investment.

In the long run though, a country as industrious with China with 1.3 billion people is going to rise and rise, in much the same manner as the USA did in the 19th century.

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posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:29 PM
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Roars back?...really? More like whimpers and cowers in the corner afraid of getting the hose again....

I agree with a poster above. They release statements like this as a means of putting the restless herds of sheep in a calm and consuming mood. "Hey, China thinks we're number one again...let's go buy things we got no money for!"

I don't buy it...or much anything else these days.

The economy is limping forward a little bit...in some areas better than others. I have been fortunate since the beginning of the 4th quarter of 2012 and it seems to be continuing well this year. However, I am not rolling into the local bar and buying drinks for everyone. I have seen these types of economic times before...it's a stagger, a leap forward, a step back...a pause...kinda like a drunk trying to walk home from the local pool hall...

The economists said back when everything hit the crapper in 07/08 that it would take a decade or more to recover. Though things are crawling out of the pit, there is still a long-long way to go and it will never be the way it was before. I know a lot of people that are finally wising up...they don't frivolously spend their hard earned money on stupid crap anymore and ...thanks to the "great recession" prob never will again.
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posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:36 PM
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G,day mate. your quote from/by sun tzu is prob. very close to the mark. why?. the chinese seem intent on doing the exact opposite to their published statement. a few of your replies mention the high cost of gasoline in the US. could you tell ne how much you pay for a gallon.? in South Australia i am paying $1.65 for a litre/liter for 98% octane unleaded. if my memery serves me correctly there are about 4 litres to a gallon.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:41 PM
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I second the opinion of the Chinese using the ancient book from Sun Tzu on the Art of War. Say one thing, do another.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:44 PM
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gas by me is $3.89 a gallon for regular. different countries have different epa standards so an interesting question would be how many miles per gallon do you get? my car gets around 24 miles to the gallon but i have heard other countries w lower epa standards can get like 80 miles to the gallon or something crazy like that. if that in fact is true then when all is said in done we are probably paying roughly the same for our fuel costs.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by jimmiec
I second the opinion of the Chinese using the ancient book from Sun Tzu on the Art of War. Say one thing, do another.


They have also been buying in large quantities of gold. A gold backed RMB is not a realistic option. There just isn't enough gold in the world to gold back a reserve currency.

But what are they planning with the gold?



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 03:59 PM
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I agree with most of the above posts. The US still has some fight left in it, and will continue to pull some aces out of the deck, but it won't last forever, and in the long run we're in decline, while other powers may rise through this transition.

Another factor to take into consideration is how the shale oil and fracking will impact the environment and exacerbate the ecological destruction we're unleashing across the globe. I guess the way the western elites may be looking at it is:

This is end game. We pulled out our cheap energy, polluted our cities, then spent time repairing the damage locally, and sucking the rest of the world dry. Now that our con game (petrodollar) is almost up, we must do what is necessary to come back on top. We will attempt this by any means, especially considering if we don't take the steps, other countries will.
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posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by jimmiec
I second the opinion of the Chinese using the ancient book from Sun Tzu on the Art of War. Say one thing, do another.


They have also been buying in large quantities of gold. A gold backed RMB is not a realistic option. There just isn't enough gold in the world to gold back a reserve currency.

But what are they planning with the gold?



Good question. Seems to me that, thanks to these "currency wars" we have going on, there will eventually be a currency "reset". Plus, they use fractional reserves of gold to back currency, it's not a one-to-one ratio.

Our Fort Knox is mostly empty. When Germany asked for a bunch of its gold back, they had to give the fed 7 years to give back 150 tons. The obvious reason is because the fed doesn't have it! They have to try and get it back anyway they can, hence the current market squeeze on the precious metals I'm currently seeing.

If they let gold and silver go in a true free market, both would be a great deal higher. But in order to buy what they need, they have to keep the price down. When they get what they need, they'll stop manipulating the price and it'll shoot up like it's rocket powered. Another reason why the stock market is kept artificially high right now. High stock market usually entices people to get out of precious metals and into other things.

However, the proof is in the pudding. China and India are buying it up, as much as they can, every day. We are bankrupt in terms of gold. All we have is oil and natural gas.....hence the aggressive drilling, deeper exploration of existing oil fields, and fracking the hell out of the land. It's all we've got.





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