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Originally posted by hotel1
The Fourteen Degrees are of the York Rite of Masonry as I understand it, and the Thirty Second Degrees are of the Scottish Rite. I have seen information that states that the degrees are transferable across the two separate rites but of course the reliability of this information by its nature is questionable.
Kind regards
Originally posted by Infi8nity
Originally posted by hotel1
The Fourteen Degrees are of the York Rite of Masonry as I understand it, and the Thirty Second Degrees are of the Scottish Rite. I have seen information that states that the degrees are transferable across the two separate rites but of course the reliability of this information by its nature is questionable.
Kind regards
Ok so your saying if he wear to join york rite he would be a 14 degree, even though he got 32nd in the Scottish rite? I am guessing because their is more information in the york rite then the Scottish rite?
Originally posted by ElOmen
This is just a coinscidence, as soon as i opened this thread the car in front of me had a masonic sticker in the back.
Originally posted by Infi8nity
Originally posted by ElOmen
This is just a coinscidence, as soon as i opened this thread the car in front of me had a masonic sticker in the back.
Ahhh I hope your not using the internet while driving.
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by hotel1
Actually they are two separate rights, and not interchangeable to each other. Yes, they are both additional avenues for masons to take, like the Shrine. The York Rite has individual degrees that must be worked, while the Scottish Rite is a series of plays that you watch and receive the 4-32nd degree during the reunion. (Again, in my jurisdiction)
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by Infi8nity
Do you know when your grandfather went to the Scottish Rite?
In years past, the 14th degree ring was given to masons who went through the Scottish Rite along with a hat, a book (long ago was Morals and Dogma, more recently A Bridge to Light) and a few pins and buttons. Since the price of Gold skyrocketed, they started (in my jurisdiction at least) to give the rings encased in the pyramid. I went through in 2007 and have the same ring in the pyramid you showed here.
I am not sure about the coin ring.
I would bet your grandfather thought you would make a fine mason and that is why he left you those.
I sure wish I could have a few conversations with my grandfather now that I am older and can appreciate what knowledge he tried to give. But being the smartest teenager that ever lived (until my children all became teens that is) I wasn't interested in his "mumbo jumbo" stuff at the time. Good ole hindsight.
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by hotel1
The York Rite has individual degrees that must be worked, while the Scottish Rite is a series of plays that you watch and receive the 4-32nd degree during the reunion. (Again, in my jurisdiction)
Originally posted by Infi8nity
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by hotel1
The York Rite has individual degrees that must be worked, while the Scottish Rite is a series of plays that you watch and receive the 4-32nd degree during the reunion. (Again, in my jurisdiction)
Could you give some real time examples of this? I am having trouble understanding what you mean by individual degree's and a series of play's. Are you saying that in the York Rite you earn degree's step by step while in Scottish rite you learn a multitude of teaching witch can progress you from a 3rd degree to a 7th degree?
Is their a time period in to earn degree's? Could you progress to a 32nd degree in a year?edit on 19-2-2013 by Infi8nity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by Infi8nity
The 14th degree ring is in the plastic pyramid because it's not real gold, it's a replica. That's the way they are presented to new SR masons. You are free to purchase a real ring on your own, but the ring is not included in your initiation dues. (around $300 when I did it)
The coin ring apparently has to do with another fraternal order.
tsl.org...
From your link. He must have had membership in several different orders. To my knowledge, the second is not a masonic group.
I have seen information that states that the degrees are transferable across the two separate rites but of course the reliability of this information by its nature is questionable.
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by Infi8nity
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by hotel1
The York Rite has individual degrees that must be worked, while the Scottish Rite is a series of plays that you watch and receive the 4-32nd degree during the reunion. (Again, in my jurisdiction)
Could you give some real time examples of this? I am having trouble understanding what you mean by individual degree's and a series of play's. Are you saying that in the York Rite you earn degree's step by step while in Scottish rite you learn a multitude of teaching witch can progress you from a 3rd degree to a 7th degree?
Is their a time period in to earn degree's? Could you progress to a 32nd degree in a year?edit on 19-2-2013 by Infi8nity because: (no reason given)
In the SR Southern Jurisdiction, you go to what's called a reunion. You must first be a 3rd degree master mason in good standing. Then you go to what is usually a weekend class. You watch a series of plays that teach lessons in morality and masonic history. There is a minimum you must see in order to finish the class, but it can be a little as 5 plays (degrees) an maximum of 29. The 29 plays usually takes about 4 days to do everything and is not done very often. So you go from being a 3rd degree master mason to being a 32nd degree SR mason in a weekend. That's why we keep trying to tell everyone that the degrees don't mean all that much as far as rank.
I am on a few degree teams and we dress up in costumes and practice our parts just like any other theatrical production would do. It's a lot of fun and fellowship.
Please ask any questions you may have. I will answer anything I can.