Fuel supply suspected in thrust instability events

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posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:46 AM
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A number of Boeing 737NG aircraft (32 in all, 17 for Alaska Airlines), all for different carriers, have had both single, and dual thrust instability events since 2008. It typically occurs as a fluctuation between N1 (low pressure spool) and N2 (high pressure spool) speeds, during high power operations. Usually during climb out, then it all usually returns to normal (a few flights have had one engine not return to normal).

Two events occurred as recently as August and November of 2012. During those events both engines suffered the instability, one aircraft had both engines return to normal, and returned to the airport safely, while the other had only one engine return to normal (it returned safely as well). Boeing says that one aircraft had both instabilities happen at the same time, while the other had one happen, and then the second at a different time.

The instability is well within the engine's ability to handle, and isn't causing damage to the engines. But has now been narrowed down to the Honeywell hydromechanical unit (HMU) that controls fuel flow to the engines. The HMU is designed to handle a certain level of contamination in the fuel, and it's being examined to see if there is too much contamination from one particular refinery supplying fuel.

CFM has issued a software change to the Fadec (full-authority digital engine control) that appears to have stopped the problem from occurring (there hasn't been one since the update). The HMU has had problems since 1998, when the NG was first introduced. From uncommanded accelerations in flight, to flame outs on the ground. A software change then fixed the problem as well.

It doesn't appear that this is a dangerous situation, as almost all the aircraft have simply throttled down for a second or two, then throttled back up, and the problem has gone away. This will be big if it turns out to be the fuel supply though. I don't see it being fuel though, as no other aircraft seems to have reported any problems, besides the 737. Although, there are more 737s than any other aircraft out there currently flying. I'm still willing to bet it's the HMU or Fadec that's the problem.


Boeing and CFM International are scrutinizing fuel supplies and the Honeywell-built fuel-control system in the CFM56-7B following a series of thrust-instability events on Boeing 737NG aircraft.

Their findings could have broader implications for the Jet A supply chain and fuel-testing regimen if contamination is behind the incidents. “We're doing a root-cause analysis, looking at the fuel-control unit and the entire fuel supply chain,” says Boeing. “The problem might be fuel-based.”

The instabilities, described as a fluctuation in N1 (low-pressure spool) and N2 (high-pressure spool) speeds, are occurring at high power settings, for example in climbing to cruise altitude, after which “engine operation typically returns to normal,” says Boeing.

There have been 32 thrust-instability events since the first was reported in January 2008, with 17 of the events in the Alaska Airlines fleet, according to Boeing. At least one incident has occurred at Southwest Airlines, based on a memo circulated to its pilots. However, two dual-engine instabilities occurred as recently as August and November 2012. “In one case [in 2012], both engines regained normal control and performance, and the airplane safely returned to base,” says Boeing. “In the other case, one engine's thrust did not respond properly, but the other engine fully recovered, and the airplane returned to base without further incident.”

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posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:52 AM
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interesting, zaph....i always look to you for aviation knowledge, thanks for the information for us that are ignorant of these things. it's nice to have info that is condenced and concise.
edit on 19-2-2013 by jimmyx because: spell



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 10:43 AM
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everything these days seems to get fixed via software updates.

If not there's always an app for it. lol

But seriously since so much technology has been moved into software these days, I am not really surprised.

Take for example BA Flight 38 that pancaked onto Heathrow airport back in 2008.
If it wasn't for FADEC control the aircraft would have crashed over London.

The pilot reported that the engines would not spool up when in fact the FADEC control was working like mad just to keep the engines up at running speed.

On the flip side Flight 447, the weather conditions got worse and the pitot tubes froze over so the computers disconnected as each sensor went off line.

Ironic as it may be, when the chips are down its when you need computers the most.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 02:17 PM
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AF447 was savable, if the pilot had done what he was supposed to do.

But you're right, things are getting more and more computerized. If you look at the new military aircraft, you can't even fly them without a computer, because of the whole relaxed stability design.





 
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