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A New Take at Existence

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posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 08:56 AM
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After much potent thought spawning from mental clarity and expansion I have come to the conclusion of what life really is and what our existence is. Take note that I'm not saying this is fact, but in my own opinion what I am coming to believe.

Okay.

So modern science states that we exist in the third dimension. It is a basic belief. We are not a single line connected by 2 points, therefore we are not 1D, we are not a linear plane with no depth, not 2D. But we believe we are 3D. We have depth along with length and width. This is three dimensions. But beyond that, there is more.

According to popular theory there are 10 dimensional levels of existence. This 10th dimension is comprised of every possibility that could ever occur. Anything that could ever possibly happen, is happening or will happen in this dimension. My belief is that this is the 10th dimension. We exist in this dimension. I am saying this because how can we exist in the third dimension alone with the absence of possibility. Yes we are presently observing everything in 3 spatial dimensions but there is possibility here in the 10th dimension which is what gives rise to our being and everything that we currently know.

Now, according to my knowledge, every higher dimension can see down onto the lower dimensions, which is why we know that a line is 1D and a linear plane is 2D. If we exist in the 10th dimension why cant we physically view time or any of the other following 5 dimensions between. Because in the state of possibility that we are currently experiencing this is all that there is. This is what is currently existing within the realm of possibility.

Now my interpretation of this is that, nothing actually exists. The "real" existence is empty and void, but we are existing as a possible existence. We are just a probability that could occur, but that is what makes us exist. The fact that we are "something", a probability, this is what gives us life. And this will continue for as long as we know.

The possibility of us being born again is real. Because there is a scenario where in a infinite random set of numbers, there is a certain percent chance of that same set of numbers appearing again, and again, and again, though surrounded by different numbers.

So what I'm trying to say is that we will continue to exist forever, after this current experience, and then we will continue to exist again in another potential existence that is surrounded by "other numbers" (a different environment). That set of numbers is you, the set of numbers translates to a specific coding that makes up the "you". We are each a different set of numbers within the infinite range of random possibility.

Just my thoughts.




posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:05 AM
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very interesting and makes sense on so many levels..



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:15 AM
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Thanks! I've been postulating some kind of general understanding of what is really going on now for months. My mind will just not stop wandering off. If you have any questions feel free to ask, because I would like to discuss any possible mistakes I may have made or potential corrections in this theory.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:25 AM
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Now my interpretation of this is that, nothing actually exists. The "real" existence is empty and void, but we are existing as a possible existence.

How can we exist as possible existence if there is nothing that actually exists?



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:35 AM
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Even though nothing "truly" exists. Everything does exist within the range of possibility. I believe that this is basically a projection of possibilities onto space. We are in the "cloud" that is enveloping the "universe" and this is the 10th dimension, but only a small portion of it.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:40 AM
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""""The realm in which we think we currently exist, space, is empty. We believe we are in this space because it is occupied by the cloud of possibility. This would explain virtual particles "popping into and out of existence seemingly at random within the vacuum of space." We just so happen to be the possibility of a conscious observer. What we are existing in is just the current state of the flux of potential realities. """"

i took this from another thread but it is relating to your theory and was quoted by you i should mention can you go even deeper? i mean how do you think this "Cloud" of probability is occupying space. What drove you to this notion... and how do you think we exist in a state of fluxuation of possible outcomes...

i hope you dont mind me disecting your post i just wanna form a stable view point of your view its very interesting IMO and i just about agree with everything mentioned except the above mentioned quote and well being fake lol



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:41 AM
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hmm well now theres an arguement that needs to be had but im underqualified for lol! good job



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by Erich94
reply to post by NiNjABackflip
 


Even though nothing "truly" exists. Everything does exist within the range of possibility. I believe that this is basically a projection of possibilities onto space. We are in the "cloud" that is enveloping the "universe" and this is the 10th dimension, but only a small portion of it.


almost like a very advanced technological GOD hologram .....

?Originally posted by ausername?
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Since you're dealing with "what ifs" ... What if every galaxy in our universe has a black hole at the core, and over time the black holes consume all of the matter in their galaxies, then over even more time all of the black holes consume each other until all matter in our universe is compressed into one single point in space and then BANG it all begins again?

Hey, maybe you've been here before billions of times already?

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post by grs1234
this i thought was a very good one and simple enough for anyone to understand...and in my current state of known information is a very valid what if and would completely justify infinity. hmm its almost uncanny the reference of cycles from our own earth to this theory and the universe. Could be a gem here!!! still it wouldnt necessarily have to have black holes in EVERY galaxy your now discussing the time frame at which involution occurs


i also took this post from the thread where i got your post it was a quote i made adding on to the theory of infinity and would also support your "Cloud" of possiblity.....i think i formed a viewpoint on the way the universe works today lol!!!
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EDIT:Many many...many layers upon even more layers
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posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:55 AM
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so your saying that the universe or 10th dimension is on a virtual disk like a computer or more accurately a simulator... or no?
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posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:56 AM
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When I say cloud, I am meaning it metaphorically. There is not an actual cloud. I'm just giving an example.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 10:08 AM
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Basically, I came to this conclusion through studying the feeling that every single one of us has experienced. Nothingness. Think back to your furthest memory, and then try and explore back before you were alive. If you are like most people you probably can't. All there is, is just blank nothingness, no emotion or expression, or anything for that matter. The fact that we can remember this nothingness is what struck me as odd. If there was no conscious state before we were born, how do we know the feeling before we existed. Even if it seems like "nothingness" is it really nothingness if we can remember it? I meditated on the thought of this nothingness for a long period of time to figure that since we, seemingly out of no where, came into existence, there has to be a probability for this occurrence. If we can be born out of nothing, then there HAS to be many other multiple scenarios in which we could possibly "exist". It's kind of like the multiverse theory in a sense, but not quite entirely.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 10:19 AM
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I have wondered about the whole idea of everything being a simulation but that whole thing always comes boiling down to one key factor. If we are being simulated, can we simulate? And if we can, can that simulation eventually simulate, and etc. Or can the beings who simulated us possibly be simulated by other beings? It's just kind of a silly argument seeing as how there is no way to definitely know if anything is real or not in this scenario, and it also leaves no reason to care, because even if what we experience isn't actually real, it is still real to us, and this is what we call our "reality".



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 10:21 AM
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S&F

Makes a change to read something coherent that can't be proven but is not out of the realm of possibility
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You touched on something that I have also thought before. Twice in my life (that I am aware of) I have been in a situation where I COULD have been killed. As an example, one of these times I was driving along the motorway at around 80mph. There was an accident ahead and everyone was braking sharply and I noticed a bit too late and slammed on my brakes and had to swerve into the middle lane to avoid another car, a lorry was coming up behind me...fast and I thought that it was curtains. I closed my eyes and then the car shook as the lorry skidded past in the hard shoulder and stopped about 50 feet ahead.

I thought afterwards that what if the lorry DID hit me and kill me and now I am living in another dimension where the consequences of that accident were different? Maybe every possible consequence plays out simultaneously and I am now in a different dimension where everything is the same except the past? Life after death could just be continuation in an almost identical place. Maybe in another dimension, my family are grieving and in another, I may not have even been born. But this begs the question; If this is the case, surely there must be an infinite number of dimensions, not just 10?



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 10:22 AM
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Prepare for my skeptic attacks...

You say something something 10 dimensions therefore nothing actually exists. That is a bold conclusion to make based on purely speculative premises. You can never prove your premises to be true, and you most certainly can never prove your conclusion to be true. Not only would you have to prove that you don't exist, but you would also have to prove that I don't exist, and I will fight until my last existing breath defending the fact that I exist.

I also can't see how you can say we don't exist, but we exist as a probability. We either exist or we don't exist, there is no middle ground.

We exist as a probability... what exactly does this mean?

I do like that you are thinking big picture... very big 10-D picture at that. But I would caution you on deriving your beliefs of the world from unprovable big picture speculation, because then your beliefs will never hold logical weight.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by Erich94
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I have wondered about the whole idea of everything being a simulation but that whole thing always comes boiling down to one key factor. If we are being simulated, can we simulate? And if we can, can that simulation eventually simulate, and etc. Or can the beings who simulated us possibly be simulated by other beings? It's just kind of a silly argument seeing as how there is no way to definitely know if anything is real or not in this scenario, and it also leaves no reason to care, because even if what we experience isn't actually real, it is still real to us, and this is what we call our "reality".




Yeah it's confusing
Who simulate the simulation? And who simulate the simulations where the simulators simulate the simulations of our life?

last week, i suddenly have a weird 'feeling' that our world always exist. It has to exist without any reason.
Like de javu


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posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 10:27 AM
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I understand what you are saying about the whole near death experience thing, but I think you might be a bit mixed up in what dimensions are. If you died in this dimension, you wouldn't then continue to exist in another dimension, you could potentially continue existing in the same dimension, but under a different set of circumstances, since the 10th dimension encompasses all possible realities.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by Wang Tang
Prepare for my skeptic attacks...

You say something something 10 dimensions therefore nothing actually exists. That is a bold conclusion to make based on purely speculative premises. You can never prove your premises to be true, and you most certainly can never prove your conclusion to be true. Not only would you have to prove that you don't exist, but you would also have to prove that I don't exist, and I will fight until my last existing breath defending the fact that I exist.

I also can't see how you can say we don't exist, but we exist as a probability. We either exist or we don't exist, there is no middle ground.

We exist as a probability... what exactly does this mean?

I do like that you are thinking big picture... very big 10-D picture at that. But I would caution you on deriving your beliefs of the world from unprovable big picture speculation, because then your beliefs will never hold logical weight.


It's interesting to think that it is possible that you only exist in my perception of reality. There is no way that anyone could prove to anyone else that they really do exist. I COULD be the centre of my universe with everything and everyone else being an illusion. What I am saying is that YOU might exist or I might exist but we don't necessarily BOTH exist.



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by Erich94
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I understand what you are saying about the whole near death experience thing, but I think you might be a bit mixed up in what dimensions are. If you died in this dimension, you wouldn't then continue to exist in another dimension, you could potentially continue existing in the same dimension, but under a different set of circumstances, since the 10th dimension encompasses all possible realities.


Ok, I think I get you. So are you saying that the 10th dimension encompasses an infinite number of 'parallel universes' so to speak?



posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by fiftyfifty

Originally posted by Wang Tang
Prepare for my skeptic attacks...

You say something something 10 dimensions therefore nothing actually exists. That is a bold conclusion to make based on purely speculative premises. You can never prove your premises to be true, and you most certainly can never prove your conclusion to be true. Not only would you have to prove that you don't exist, but you would also have to prove that I don't exist, and I will fight until my last existing breath defending the fact that I exist.

I also can't see how you can say we don't exist, but we exist as a probability. We either exist or we don't exist, there is no middle ground.

We exist as a probability... what exactly does this mean?

I do like that you are thinking big picture... very big 10-D picture at that. But I would caution you on deriving your beliefs of the world from unprovable big picture speculation, because then your beliefs will never hold logical weight.


It's interesting to think that it is possible that you only exist in my perception of reality. There is no way that anyone could prove to anyone else that they really do exist. I COULD be the centre of my universe with everything and everyone else being an illusion. What I am saying is that YOU might exist or I might exist but we don't necessarily BOTH exist.



ohho careful mate this one put me in the medical ward.... im serious ...
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posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 10:40 AM
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It is not that I do not exist at all, it is that I exist merely as a possibility. I wouldn't necessarily have to prove that you do not exist either, because to us, this is existence. What I am saying is, our existence isn't quite what we make it out to be.

I am saying is that we are just possibilities. We are just the possibility of existing, and that is how we exist. In nothingness, there is a possibility of existing so this is obviously "something in nothing". Even if it is not tangible, it is still something. Virtual particles are my evidence of this. If there is always these virtual particles in empty space, then doesn't that also mean that there is a potential for everything to arise from nothing. If everything can arise from nothing, than couldn't we be in the 10th dimension seeing as how everything, which is anything could possibly exist or exists right now in farther reaches of space?
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