Nestle recalls products after horse meat discovery, page 1

Hi all

Ive posted a couple threads about this horsemeat scandal, and now we have a new twist food giant Nestle has recalled two chilled pasta products, Buitoni Beef Ravioli and Beef Tortellini, from store shelves in Italy and Spain.

They have also suspended deliveries of all its products from German beef supplied by H.J. Schypke..

Ok there saying its only trace amounts again,but last time it was trace amounts then 60 % then 80% then 100% horsemeat and then it was donkey..

I cant believe a company as big as Nestle can let horsemeat get in their products and I dont believe for one second they didnt know it was there.. I mean wouldnt a company this size do its own independent testing.

I know there is alot of Nestle products in the US and Im just curious how much donkeymeat has made its way onto americans plates..

Hss it been confirmed that either Nestle or Burger King tainted meats havnt made there way to the US

www.cnn.com...

Nestle is suspending deliveries of all its products that include beef from a German supplier because "traces of horse DNA" were found in the meat, the Swiss-based food giant said on its website Monday.

Nestle also is recalling two chilled pasta products, Buitoni Beef Ravioli and Beef Tortellini, from store shelves in Italy and Spain, the news release said. A lasagna product sold to French catering businesses will also be recalled

Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
The issue for me is the deception! Yes false ad. Good god yes. People should know what they are purchasing, especially when it comes to food! This is about principle.

I can understand the principle. There should be controls to ensure that one type of foodstuff is not sold as another; it could cause all kinds of problems, including sickness and death.

On the other hand it's kinda funny. My folks tell me that horsemeat was relatively common in the US after WWII. Oh, wait. I have a link.

How Americans Think: About Horse Meat, For Example

This seems quite ironic since Americans generally do not eat horse. In fact, horse meat has not been consumed in the U.S. in any regular way for a very long time. At the end of the Second World War, when beef was scarce, Americans resorted to horsemeat and Republicans ran against “Horsemeat Harry” Truman. Again in the early 1970s, when beef prices skyrocketed under the Nixon administration, people tried horsemeat, a trend illustrated on an episode of “All in the Family.”

I don't remember that particular "All in the Family" episode, nor people trying horsemeat during the Nixon administration, although I was in my early 20s then....

reply to post by goou111

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Im a carnivore and will eat anything with the exception to dog or cat and only then because I like them and have heard they are tortured before being killed to get adrenaline through their systems.

Most livestock we eat has been pumped so full of hormones and and other stuff that whats in a racehorse would seem healthy by comparison.

As for donkey, never tried it but I would.

The false advertising I get but it seems to me that most are upset because its horse, I doubt there would have been much fuss if it was mutton instead of horse.

1 sentient being is as good as another in my opinion and whether its horse, cow, rabbit, whatever, the Karmic bill will turn up eventually

reply to post by IkNOwSTuff

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Eat whatever you want but if your ok with them lying to you and selling you that sh--.telling you its one thing when its a completely different thing all together

If I spend my $$ on something and find out I was lied to about what i bought I would expect my $$ back so I think everyone who bought this sh-- should ask for refunds lol

Ill bet ya 20 buks that we find out real soon there is dog and cat meat in our food as well lol

Imagin how many dogs and cats die every year

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
reply to post by goou111

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1 sentient being is as good as another in my opinion and whether its horse, cow, rabbit, whatever, the Karmic bill will turn up eventually

Animals are not sentient beings.

reply to post by goou111

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I get the lying part and would be a bit peeved as well but from what I can tell from most comments in other threads the issue is the fact its horse and not the fact they were lied to.

Would you personally be upset if it was lamb or goat in the meat?

What if the meat was venison which is healthier and more expensive, would it still be an issue?

Not being a smartass, genuinely curious

reply to post by SubAce

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Thanks animal whisperer for that insight. Please inform the scientists. They keep wasting time on that.

reply to post by IkNOwSTuff

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Well in all the threads I have consistently talked about the issue being the deceit. People should care and be pissed. What kind of precedent does it set for further deception if the public doesn't react with strong enough opposition. The meat is trivial to the matter.

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
reply to post by goou111

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Would you personally be upset if it was lamb or goat in the meat?

What if the meat was venison which is healthier and more expensive, would it still be an issue?

Not being a smartass, genuinely curious

Yes because I wanna know what im eating so I can have a choice.. some people love horses just like you love dogs and cats and would never eat one on purpose..

Just like some people refuse to eat pork shouls they not think its any big deal if the are eating pork when they thought they bought beef?

Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
reply to post by SubAce

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Thanks animal whisperer for that insight. Please inform the scientists. They keep wasting time on that.

Fair enough. I realize animal rights activists like to say that they are sentient in that they have feelings. I was referring to the sentient in the fact that they are not conscious. A sentient being is aware of oneself, thus is conscious of self existence, this is something unique to humans. Humans, in this context, are "sentient" beings (aware of their own existence). Animals are not.

reply to post by goou111

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reply to post by Lucid Lunacy

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Fair call.

I can get on board with that.

The fact someone lied about what was in the product regardless of what is was is wrong, Im sure the book will be thrown at these people and I doubt their business will last much longer.

I agree its disgusting they got away with it, could have been anything and people are lucky it was just horse

reply to post by SubAce

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Animals are not sentient beings.

With a comment like that I doubt you are either

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