Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by guymontag
Frankly, I don't see any agencies even buying these for training. My problem isn't there, as it won't happen. My problem is this current discussion
and my shocking realization that people came in here to justify it.
Why is it wrong to justify training targets?
I have a question for you...
What decision would you make when someone is pointing a gun at you and you have to make a split second decision as to shoot or not to shoot?
Now remember this is a life threatening situation where you have the chance to go home as you always do, or you can be taken away by the coroner...
Take your time, bit remember that person is pointing a gun at you with the intention on hurting if not killing you, so what would you decide?
Ok, so. This "go home or not" nonsense comes up time and time again. As a former LEO and a member of the military who has been in a war zone here or
there I can tell you that we were trained to make decisions that dealt with protection. Not self perseverance.
What this means to you laymen out there is that your job is NOT to worry about coming home and that you better shoot them before they shoot you.
Your job is to protect. Protect yourself, protect the assailant (the pregnant woman in the prior picture), protect the people around
you, protect everyone.
How you do this is by making sound decisions. That is not deciding to shoot first. That is to analyze the situation and act accordingly, to follow
the rules regarding the escalation of deadly force, and overall, to protect.
Perhaps that child doesn't know its a real gun.
Perhaps that woman is scared you are a burglar.
Perhaps you get shot. And that would be too bad. However, again, the job is to protect. When a person signs up for the military or LEO they know
they are signing up to potentially get shot at, blown up, maimed or otherwise made dead. That is the deal. You are signing up to protect and if that
means getting dead as part of your job to protect, you do that.
That is why we idolize the guy who jumps in front of the gun, sacrificing his life to save others. That is why we honor the guy who jumps on the
grenade. They didn't say to themselves, "Oh crap, I better off that woman before she shoots me after getting done shooting that other guy." They
don't see the grenade rolling on the floor and look quickly at their comrades and think, "Eff them! I am getting the hell outa here! Good luck
effers!"
Only the cowardly think that their job is to first go home and to shoot everyone who gets in the way.
If you cannot hack it, if you don't have the stones for it, then you should NOT be in an LEO. If you are a *ussy then go get a job as a mall cop and
point your flashlight at people and look imposing.
If you are there to protect and to serve you do what is necessary to ensure that NO ONE gets shot; by you or by anyone else. NO
ONE.
What the hell is wrong with you people who think it is ok to shoot a pregnant woman or a child?
I mean really. What the hell is wrong with you?
My god!
edit on 20-2-2013 by Bakatono because: (no reason given)