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Magazine invention Idea.Clip blocks.

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posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 02:48 PM
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I had an idea.

Why not make magazines that clip into each other?

Let me explain.

So we cannot have high capacity magazines right?

What if several low capacity magazines could clip into each other?

Like if they were built like blocks that snapped into the next on the bottom of the last.

So you could load your weapon with a low capacity magazine that then could simply have another clip into the bottom of it, pushing its ammo up the chain?

you would load the ammo from the bottom, they would have a mechanism in the bottom that was spring loaded that pushed the ammo up and into the next clip like is normally done with regular magazines pushing ammo into the weapon by spring loaded mechanisms.

If I was an engineer I would built it, sell it and be a millionaire. I am giving this idea away since I would rather they simply exist.

The benefits would not be limited to circumventing the regulations imposed on guns on the US domestically. Reload time would be greatly reduced. Imagine never having to disengage the last clip? just pop another on top of it and all the ammo gets fed up the chain of magazines to the weapon?

You could have the mechanism react to either the weapon or another clip with a set of prongs that hit either one lever for all the ammo to be pushed up until the bottom clip is empty, or to just push up one round at a time when engaged into the weapon directly or when attached to an already full clip.

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posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 02:56 PM
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If I understand you correctly, taking a 10 round mag, "snapping it" the top into the bottom of another and then BOOM, you have a 20 round mag? Not possible. The spring would have to keep being changed the bigger the mag got (need a bigger spring) Also, you would start having feeding problems the more mags you put together because the longer the spring, the less force it pushes upwards the further up the mag it goes which is why anything over about a 30 round mag is replaced with a drum.

Also, as far as I know, modifying a high cap mag is a federal offense ( I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's right).
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posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 02:59 PM
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so,just what guns use "clips" and which ones use "magazines"?
hint-no hand guns or modern weapons use "clips".
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posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 02:59 PM
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kind of, but instead of 1 long spring you had 1 small one in each clip box. It doesnt have to be an internal spring either. It could run in an external and contained track outside of the ammo box that pushed up a lever the length of the clip into the next clip box.

I want to call them clip boxes....or clip blocks.....



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 02:59 PM
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You would run into huge jamming issues, with that much room and having to feed up through multiple clips I forsee a lot of issues with jamming.

But good thought, something to build on anyways.....

Plus I am sure they are out there somewhere, every great idea I think up I look it up and lo and behold it's already out there somewhere.....



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 03:00 PM
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I like the word clip.

I would market them as clip boxes or clip blocks, Since they would clip into each other.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 03:02 PM
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Dont see it happining,each clip needs a spring loaded floor to push the ammo up. this would be in the way of any other clip coming in behind it.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 03:06 PM
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yeah I thought about that.

What if you had a contained external spring loaded track that ran up the side of the magazine which had a foldable lever inside that pushed the ammo up but when pushed from underneath folded out of the way. (1 direction hinge).

so each magazine would push its own ammo into the next.

Edit:
I have seen something similar on pencil manufacturing machinery. The second a pencil chain was pushed up for the next phase of production the lever pushing the pencils ahead on the assembly line folded up and snapped back down to the starting position and the new feed of pencils was added to the chain of pencils ahead for the next stage of production.

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posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 03:11 PM
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If you did manufacture a magazine that could connect to the bottom of another magazine, the spring and follower of the uppermost magazine would be in the way of the ammunition in the lower magazine when the upper was empty.

As far as clips and magazines go, here is the definition:
Clips hold ammunition that is loaded into a magazine, usually a internal non-detachable magazine. Clips do not have springs.
Magazines hold ammunition and move it via spring(s) into a position where the action of the firearm can load it into the chamber to be fired. Magazines can be detachable.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 03:16 PM
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thanks for the definition. That helps clear up ideas when trying to explain this.


What if the follower folded in up (one direction hinge) when ammo from the new bottom magazine pushed its way up. This would disengage the follower and snap it back to a starting position on the bottom where it would reengage and again push the new ammo up from the bottom.

You would need two sets of springs. One pushing the ammo up and the other pushing the follower back down. Both to be mounted externally of the interior of the magazine in self contained tracks.

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posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 03:17 PM
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yeah I thought about that. What if you had a contained external spring loaded track that ran up the side of the magazine which had a foldable lever inside that pushed the ammo up but when pushed from underneath folded out of the way. (1 direction hinge).

If the magazines are to be interchangeable, the spring systems would have to be the same in all of them. I am not sure how you could arrange things that the lower magazine spring would not be pushing against the pressure created by the upper magazine spring.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 03:19 PM
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two sets of springs on each magazine. One for the ammo (up direction) and the other manipulating the follower (down reset) position.

When ammo is being fed into the upper magazine, the action down spring for the follower is engaged by the ammo tripping a lever releasing the follower from its track and also the ammo itself pushes the follower into a folded up position. When the magazine is empty, the lever for the follower is released and it sets back into its track and is snapped into the reset position at the bottom by its own spring, thus allowing another clip to be inserted in the chain to repeat the process.

the two springs would have to have different tensions. The (down) spring for the follower would have to be about half the strength of the ammo (up) spring.

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posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 03:25 PM
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I would think that you might have better luck in designing a magazine that has a cogwheel at the top that would be pushed each time the action of the firearm was cycled. This cog would turn a chain or lobed belt which would lift successive rounds into position for firing.

One thing to keep in mind would be that when the two ten round magazines are fastened together, they are in reality one 20 round magazine. I believe that they would not get around a high capacity magazine ban.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 03:30 PM
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I like that idea. Like revolver system but built in a magazine and using chains. When the top round is fired it cycles an empty position for a round back toward a reload wheal at the bottom feeding the system.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 03:36 PM
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the garand rifle is the only one i can think of that accepts "clips" of the EN block variety,also some ww2 bolt action rifles are Loaded with "stripper clips"(gigity) that are then pushed into their internal magazine but yes basicly all modern weapons use magazines and not clips,on to the mag thing some people in ca have had 30 round mags legaly but with what i think are called "mag blocks" installed that limit them (download) them to 10 rounds by using an obstruction that keeps them from being loaded to full capacity


they also have devices called magazine clamps that lock two mags side to side to speed up reloading some even having up to 4 mags attached together.another method is rubberbanding magazines to the stock or other areas to have them be more easily accessible often called jungle style

en.wikipedia.org...


The term "Jungle Style" usually refers to the practice of taping or securing two gun magazines together, with one taped upside down while the other is inserted into the rifle. A Jungle Style configuration is used to speed up the process of reloading, since the other magazine is attached to the exhausted magazine, as opposed to being in a pouch, or other ammo storage unit. The downside to the configuration is that it can increase the weapon's chance of jamming, as one magazine and its ammunition is normally left exposed to dirt and the elements. Some firearms manufactures have designed their magazines with studs or cradles that allowed them to mate together without the need of tape or clamps, such as the Heckler & Koch G36 and SIG SG 550; typically, these devices mount the magazines side-by-side and upright, so as to reduce the risk of ammunition falling out or becoming dirty.
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posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 03:51 PM
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There would be no market for it after they become illegal too.
Gotta use your head.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 03:55 PM
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www.youtube.com... here is a rather rude and stuck up explanation of ways to convert your mag from 30 to 20-15-10 depending on what is legal in your state but as the guy kinda comes off as a condescending long winded donkey ill post a few more polite videos explaining the process


www.youtube.com... much more polite and informative video that explains the proces in greater detail hope this helps you come up with more ideas op



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:11 PM
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I'm glad your thinking about this. It might be better to make an attachment that allows 2 magazines to feed rounds in alternately. Thereby each magazine will still be classified as a low round mag, but you would still be able to double the standard capacity. Of course it would just be a matter of time before the attachment is also made illegal.No sooner will a patent be issued some, some bonehead politician will draft a bill making it illegal and classifying you as a domestic terrorist.

The solution lies with removing the politicians that have little regard for the 2nd amendment.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:41 PM
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Our masters over here don't allow us peasants to bear arms. But I have followed your plight over there.

I have an idea. Ive not thought it through completely, as its just popped into my mind.

How about something similar to a belt, that is worn (as a belt) with the ammo on an secondary belt track. The clipper / fastener could be moulded as the part that would be a magazine, but would hold only a couple of bullets. The rest would be 'pullled' from the secondary track (so no friction on the body).

You would connect the fastening to the gun, and have as many rounds as the 'belt' around your waist holds.

This way, at any one time there is only a couple or a few bullets in the 'magazine' at a time.

Seems logical, and legal.

Just my 2p.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 05:16 PM
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I am sure I read this exact same idea about 2 months ago.. maybe less. Same reason.. and same use of the wrong term.

I wonder if that person just wants people to accept their idea... and tried again.. dunno.

Funny though.. You can kill someone with a knife, ban knives.. woo..

Hey when is the last time you read a thread where someone wanted desperately to be able to carry more knives ? Like with some sort of belt, or clip. You know, where you can grab the next knife real quick and throw it at a.. bear or something.

Gotta have maybe 50-100 knives on me to be able to hunt.





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