The new Microsoft Windows 8 systems that come preinstalled on a new computer have a special feature - a feature no other PC has ever had. By default
they are locked down so you cannot dual boot Windows 8 with another operating system such as Linux or even older versions of Windows such as Windows
XP and Windows 7.
Dual booting is a popular thing to do for many PC users because it allows them the ability to use the right applications they need to get the job done
if those applications are not found on Windows 8 alone. Dual booting is also used in companies that require workers use multiple operating system
platforms or home users and students to try out and learn about other operating systems. Many of these operating systems are faster than Windows and
have other features Windows does not have, as well as there are things Windows does better than these operating systems like AAA Gaming.
The reason Windows 8 will not dual boot is because Microsoft has insisted that their PC manufacturer partners like HP and Dell ship with a new type of
bios called UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) and it's feature called Secure Boot enabled. Secure Boot acts as a protection feature that is
supposed to ensure your system doesn't have any malware at the time of shipping. It works by checking keys in the operating system against hard coded
keys in the UEFI. As these keys are signed by Microsoft, the system will not allow any other operating system to boot assuring you have a clean copy
of Windows 8. en.wikipedia.org...
This has never been done before in the PC market and for good reason
- PC Manufacturers don't have problems with systems getting malware before they ship. It's all lies by Microsoft to control the users choices.
Many people feel Microsoft has done this on purpose to keep people from using other operating systems. Microsoft has gone to great lengths to write
material and train employees of places like Best Buy to trash Linux and other operating systems with lies
Microsoft clearly feels threatened by users
choosing other operating systems. This is silly because Microsoft Windows has 91.89 percent of the market share for desktop users. It can be nothing
else than pure greed in my opinion..
UEFI is buggy and causing lots of problems for many users. I ran into many of these problems learning about it and trying to get my system to work.
UEFI is clearly not ready for use today. You can learn about the buggy UEFI and the problems it causes here:
EFI and Linux: the future is here, and it's awful - Matthew Garrett - YouTube
My personal journey into Hell began when I purchased a new computer and found I could not dual boot with Linux - something that is a normal & common
procedure for any PC. This led me to discover this new UEFI and learn about it. I spent weeks trying to get my computer to dual boot properly with
UEFI, talking to Microsoft engineers, professional UEFI software developers, HP tech support and latsly, an HP trouble shooting rep that was a
specialist higher than the tech support department.
I was surprised the HP documentation for my PC did not even mention UEFI and how to use it. The tech support division had no clue about using UEFI.
Talking to the specialist, I learned some interesting things.
PC's that ship with Windows are cheaper because Microsoft buys a portion of the hardware in exchange for HP offering Windows in the computer. The rep
told me all the PC manufacturers and Microsoft have this same agreement. I wanted to know why there was no mention of UEFI in the HP documentation or
why the tech support could not help me. The HP rep told me many times during our phone conversation that because they are paid by Microsoft, they
adhere to Microsoft's wishes and not make it easy on people to learn about disabling Secure Boot so you can dual boot - something that is required by
the manufacturers from Microsoft's own documentation called Windows 8 Hardware Certification Requirements for Client and Server Systems, found here:
According to this, Microsoft requires the user the ability to disable Secure Boot. Microsoft also requires the user be able to add their own Secure
Boot keys or even remove Microsoft's own Secure Boot key if they wished. There is no mention of this in HP's documentation nor did the specialist know
why even though HP agreed to this, there was not this user option in the UEFI settings. For instance, If I had another operating system I wanted to
dual boot, I should be able to create my own Secure Boot Key and use that to make UEFI's Secure Boot work with my operating system so that it can dual
boot with Windows 8. Microsoft says I, the user am supposed to have this ability, but no PC manufacturer I have spoken to put this into thier UEFI
settings - Why? They are scratching Microsoft's back.. it's no more than a legal bribe in my opinion. Microsoft says one thing on paper, and tells
their OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturers) partners to do the opposite.
There is a solution to this madness however. Most PC's that come shipped with Windows 8 today still have a Legacy Bios version installed in the
system. Not all, if you buy an ARM based Windows 8 system you will be out of luck such as the Microsoft Surface tablet but this works for all normal
x86, x64 PC's. One may simply uninstall Windows, switch to Legacy Bios mode instead of UEFI (through your bios settings) and then reinstall Windows 8
under Legacy Bios mode. This will allow you to dual boot just like you always have been able to do. This is the best solution because UEFI is buggy -
just disabling Secure Boot while remaining in UEFI mode wont help you. These are some of the options I tried with the UEFI software designer and it
was found the best solution was not to use UEFI at all.
Just make sure you back up your system data and make the OEM's factory restore disk before you uninstall Windows, so you can use that to reinstall in
Legacy Bios mode.
I also recommend not buying any computer from a Microsoft partner such as HP. These folks are doing dirty deals behind your backs and you the user is
losing out due to the greed of these companies. I have lost all respect I had for Microsoft and HP now even though I used them for years - no longer.
From now on, I'm going to buy elsewhere.
This thread is a remake of a thread I had in the Computer sub forum. That post was removed because I used the same work (my work) I have posted on
other forums. I wrote this one from scratch.
edit on 18-2-2013 by JohnPhoenix because: sp