Pope Benedict - 'The Time of Testing is Here'

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posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:55 PM
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Vatican is corrupt. It always was and always will be. Churches all over the world own corporations. They are using countries laws to hide their illegal activities (mostly they don't have to pay taxes or report their activities).

"Give power to the man an it will corrupt him" - this sentence was never wrong through out history.

Resignation was probably the cause of many investigations and pending arrest warrants. Italian police was investigating business practices of Vatican for the last few years and now the 'head of the corporation' has to step down to keep it alive. It doesn't matter if he knew anything about it, it's how corporations do their business in modern world
People are saying: "Google and Facebook are evil because they pay less taxes than everyone else," ... church pays even less. Vatican even controlled German porn industry for a long time because they saw profits in there.

This stuff just happens when civilization stops being a herd of sheep and star thinking about it's future.

Article about German porn and publishing industry from Business Insider. It was just a grain of sand on top of the pyramid.
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posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by soaringhawk
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But that's just one of the problems with the catholic church. Mary was a normal human being.
Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the only one's that can make intercession for us.
The great falling away is talked about in the New Testament. But the church is not really shrinking. It's growing in lands like China and some Islamic countries. God will separate the sheep from the goats.
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Yes, Mary, a most blessed woman to carry the Son of Man, walked through the same reasonings in her heart that He brings us through and Jesus birthed the church when pierced in His side just as Adam's rib brought forth Eve. . But I must caution, Judea chose 'Jesus' Barabbas (the son of the father) and killed the son of God, and the "Christ" being exalted around the world is not necessarly the son of God but rather the son of the father.....the murderer, insurrectionist and robber that the crowds released 2,000 years ago. The fact that people profess Jesus Christ means nothing, as you know, unless their fruit reflects that of the Holy Spirit.. Even the demons tremble.....



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by kosmicjack
Maybe it's as simple as the time of testing is the test of religion itself...not good versus evil in the traditional sense but religion versus reason. Maybe the time of religion is passing out of history...for a time at least.


Yes and no. Religion per Our Creator is to see to the needs of the orphans and widows....the oppressed and helpless. The evil and wicked perceive these same class as useless eaters, as expendable and of no value in the eyes of arrogant man. This is what will be passing - for good and all of eternity. But until the decreed end, MAN'S religion will wax worse and worse. Man is going to build that final tower....exalting himself above all that is called God. And as before, Our Creator will come down.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by kosmicjack
Maybe it's as simple as the time of testing is the test of religion itself...not good versus evil in the traditional sense but religion versus reason. Maybe the time of religion is passing out of history...for a time at least.


Perhaps so in the first sentence, though I would replace [reason] with [logic] while either could be flawed in context.
You could consider that a tipping point in religion into antiquity, is on the cards, but what is the real reason for that? As human beings we simply do not yet have the savvy to put religion up on the top shelf, or rather 'room 101' though many try, and many others try for no GOOD reason, and likely the reason for two world wars to date, never mind the rest of history. What we do now have though is the ability to put everything into review, and separate, the wheat from the chaff, though even that is not so easy.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 05:58 PM
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Indeed. Perhaps it's the time of separating the testes from the men-that-love-boys... Kind of easy to read anything into the religious gobble-de-gook.
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posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 06:36 PM
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Has he ever said words similar to this before?
The time of testing....all of mankind? or the Church because of his resignation?
Context is important here,,,,and to be honest I have a sense of dread.
Space rocks all over:dolphins in huge numbers:Sink hole problems:A Pope Resigns:NASA warnings of major solar events this year:A comet thats going to be huge in the summer sky....and the killer-government spending like there is no tomorrow.
I may be paranoid,it may all be much of nothing,but my Spidey senses are on high gain.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by heineken
im so glad all religions are fake..because so it must be with their end times prophecies


... says the guy with an alien in a heineken bottle as an avatar




posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 07:04 PM
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But-but-but....that's real! It's all the stuff everyone else believes that's bullsh!t!

I personally think we are always being tested. Can we be bigger than our component parts? Can we rise to the challenges of our rapidly advancing technologies and use it with temperance and wisdom?

I do not see "end of days" in his words, I see an attempt to prop up those who are praying for the end to come and cleanse this diseased place. Many-many believe the world is so broken that something terrible must be coming....

That being said, I'm not Catholic...he's just a man trying to do and say what he thinks is right...whether it is or is not is not within my authority to judge.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by heineken
im (sic) so glad all religions are fake..because so it must be with their end times prophecies


Please prove that it's fake, source's and links please.
SnF
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posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 07:55 PM
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'The Time of Testing is Here'. Was this just the usual kind of Lenten homily/sermon that is given by the pope? To be expected at this time of year? Or does it have deeper meaning?
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I take it more as a testing time for his church, not the world in general.
The Church is under fire for its banking practices and pedophilia. In my humble opinion there has been a coup within the vatican and rival factions are scurrying. Going into seclusion or gaining distance from controversy?
the last thing on the minds of the fathers of the church is the well being of thier flock so if the pope is selling doom its just to bump the numbers or shift the interest.
2 things are guaranteed to sell; sex and doom.

Still, we are in the most interesting of times and i dont want to detract from that mystery.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 09:13 PM
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Listen to this sermon which mentions Apostasy and the smoke of Satan entering the santuary within the context of the Pope's resignation.

www.audiosancto.org...

From some of the research I've done this may have something to do with the Third Secret of Fatima.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 10:12 PM
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Within the overall context, even as the beginning of lent, I am forced to conclude that the Vatican was/is infiltrated by Satanists and that he doesn't have the strength and the power to deal with it, and therefore the church is, like Christ in the desert being tested by the devil, which is not a good thing, unless everyone is made aware of it, and somehow by the power of the spirit (that also saved Jesus from temptation) so too might the church overcome the temptation(s) and revivify itself and carry on it's ministry on behalf of the Lord - pretty dicey situation if you ask me, or maybe not, maybe it ends in a joke at the expense of the devil, generating the space of all new possibility according to the power of God's mercy and grace to regenerate and make the church new again.

A strange way of handling it, and a courageous one, placing the church into the hands of the living spirit in time for lent and Easter.

And then maybe, in the final analysis the satanists will have to flee or I should say the devil within them or some among them, as everyone flees all corruption and draws close to the love of the Lord Jesus Christ. Here's hoping..

But it's true that Peter has left the foot of the cross.

The power of Lord alone in a love that conquers all, will surely be up to the task and sufficient unto the end, even to the new beginning.

It's a true passion, not unlike Christ himself - that's very interesting when you think about it. Still makes you wonder what the hell was going on behind the scenes.. oh well.

May the love of the Lord be with his church and all people the whole world over, in these interesting times as we stand at the very end of one history, and the beginning of a new one, at all levels, as reason and spirit pour in like waves of our salvation, unstoppable waves of new creation, and all new possibility for the human being.

It's time to overcome in weakness, I understand what the Pope has done, and it could be interpreted as a courageous and wise act.

It's filled with Christian symbolism for the coming year.

Now if we can only just lay down all our pride and lust for power, and let go and let God..

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posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 10:25 PM
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NOT ONLY ARE THE PEDOPHILIC BARSTIDS BEING EXPOSED,OTHER ACCUSATIONS ARE BEING MADE BY QUIT NUNS AND PRIESTS....
THE VATICAN BANK MAY JUST BE A HOLLOW SHELL, STRIPPED OF ALL ITS ASSETS BY CAREFUL MANIPULATION OF THE CLERGY, LEAVING HALF A BILLION CATHOLICS MINUS THEIR SAVINGS....
THE PAST CONNECTIONS TO THE DICTATORS OF THE COUNTRIES THEY HAVE CHURHES IN, MAY COME TO LIGHT.....
WHO KNOWS WHAT THE NEXT DISGRACE THE CHURCH WILL SUFFER IN THE EYES OF THE FAITHFUL,
BUT I THINK ITS ALL PART OF THE PLAN...............
I ALWAYS THOUGHT THE BIBLE SAYS
"CALL NO MAN FATHER"
"CHRIST THE REDEEMER IS THE ONLY INTERCESSOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN"..... WHAT IS ALL THIS PHONEY MARYAND SAINTLY INTERSESSION DRIVEL ABOUT ANYWAYS?
MONEY......THATS WHAT.....
NOW SAY THREE HAIL MARYS....



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by UnBreakable

Pope retiring, then that same night the Vatican gets struck by lightning, the following days meteor sightings from all over the world, N. Korea testing a nuke while threatening the USA.......... I'm tellin' ya, the sh!t is starting to hit the fan.


Not yet, but it is good to see people looking to religion for explanations etc.

They will need faith to get through the times ahead.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 10:41 PM
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Here is a more famous quote: Power does not corrupt men; but fools, if they get into a position of power, corrupt power. ... but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.

Anywho... Who's to say Satan is not a Woman?



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 11:27 PM
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I don't think there is any denying that crazy s$@t is happening and that it all seems more than coincidence. That lightening strike! That was already enough! F%#K! I have a feeling all the apocalypse stuff will bite us in the a$$. We kept denying it, it was proven false, and now here it comes, knock. knock, we're here! Sorry we're late and there were no prophecies to tell you so, o well.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 11:34 PM
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I might suggest you do a search on the recent events concerning the Pope and the Catholic Church. I have no idea if any of it is true, but there are reports that there are arrest warrants out for not only the Pope, but also for the other heads of the Catholic Church for 'crimes against humanity and child trafficing', wanting not only thier arrests, but also that there be monetary compensation to all of the followers. There is talk that the Vatican is to give political asylum to the Pope after his resignation.
It is all very interesting...and a bit overwhelming. They want to bring down the whole Vatican, Inc. and the Catholic Church as a whole.
Has anyone else heard about any of this? Could this be what he was saying?



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 11:44 PM
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Benedict: "Doom, fear, demons! We must fight the evil spirit! I must resign to show my faith friends!"

lol that's right everyone. Keep watching the magicians left hand as the right hand works hard to cover up huge money laundering scandals, child abuse, and all sorts of other unspeakable abuses against humanity.

If I were the type of person to believe in angels and demons I would absolutely believe Benedict is a demon.
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posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by ValentinoG
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Dont forget comet ISON later this year. According to NASA, Comet ISON will be the "closest" on Dec. 26 I mean how cray cray is that?! www.nasa.gov...


We are actually expecting an unusually high number of comets this year, four I believe. Could all of activity be linked to the Wormwood prophecy? Hmmmm



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 11:51 PM
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Has anyone else heard about any of this? Could this be what he was saying?

Most casual observers of ATS should be aware of this. It's been a long developing story. Just search ATS and you should be able to dig up everything you need. What he said is an attempt to divert attention away from these current investigations. Nothing but a load of sensationalist religious mumbo-jumbo to get focus away from the down to earth fact that he and his organization are a bunch of criminals in a sinking ship.





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