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Counties that have passed anti-SAFE act resolutions Herkimer County 1/23/13 Link Warren County (Thanks Robertesq1) 1/25/13 Link 1 Link 2 Fulton County 1/28/13 Link Ulster County??? Link Link 2 ***Ulster not yet final. See below and explanation on pages 4 & 5.*** Lewis County 2/5/13 Link Putnam County - 2/6/13 Link Link 2 Orange County 2/7/13 Link Hamilton County 2/7/13 Link Yates County 2/11/13 Link Wyoming County 2/12/13 Link Madison County 2/12/13 Link Rensselaer County 2/12/13 per thekid_1 Link Tioga County 2/13/13 Link Livingston County 2/13/13 Link Cattaraugus County 2/13/13 (Thanks kab85) Link Orleans County 2/13/13(Thanks thekid_1) Link Oneida County 2/13/13 (Thanks to evileyeswatchin and moab 421) Link Oswego County 2/14/13 Link Washington County - 2/15/13 Link 1 Link 2 Schoharie County 2/15/13 Link
Counties currently working on anti-SAFE act resolutions Schoharie County to vote 2/15/13 Link Link 2 PASSED. Oswego County to vote 2/14/13 Info More info PASSED. Greene County to vote in special session 2/19/13 + 2/20/13 Link Ulster County to vote 2/19/13 per goodorbit Link Vote moved to Ulster Performing Arts Center *Official Notice of change* Niagara County to vote 2/19/13 per wnycollector. Link Rockland County to vote 2/19/13 Link Chautauqua County to vote during the week of 2/18 Link Genesee County discussion scheduled for 2/19 per Shott8283 Link St. Lawrence County is holding a public forum on 2/19/13. See updated link. Link Updated info Erie County to vote 2/21/13? Info More info Allegany County to vote 2/25/13 Link Montgomery County to vote 2/26/13 Link Delaware County working on resolution for 2/27/13 per Prominus. Updated Link Otsego County to vote 3/6/13 Link Ontario County revised vote date 3/7/13 Updated Link Dutchess County to vote in March per Flashbang1 - see page 5 Wayne County see page 8 Link Jefferson County vote date to be determined Info More info Cayuga County Link Chenango County to draft a resolution in February Link Monroe County - possible resolution per Aimless. Anyone else have info on this? Last Updated 2/17/13 8:47 pm
Originally posted by Hopechest
Why are you fighting this?
Seems to me that the best course for you, if you think its unconstitutional, is to let it go into effect in all its glory then run it up to the Supreme Court so they can make a definitive ruling and set a precedence so this stuff can never be passed again.
If you stop it without doing that they may just pass it again.
So owning a 30 rnd mag after next year is worse than... 120.70 - Luring a child | E Felony 121.11 - Criminal obstruction of breathing or blood circulation | A Misdemeanor 125.10 - Criminally negligent homicide | E Felony 130.20 - Sexual misconduct | A Misdemeanor 130.25 - Rape 3rd degree | E Felony 130.40 - Criminal sexual act 3rd degree | E Felony 130.52 - Forcible touching | A Misdemeanor 130.53 - Persistent sexual abuse | E Felony (repeat child molester, must be caught and convicted in two separate cases before the charges even reach this level) 130.65A - Aggravated sexual abuse 4th degree | E Felony 130.85 - Female genital mutilation | E Felony 135.05 - Unlawful imprisonment 2nd degree | A Misdemeanor 135.10 - Unlawful imprisonment 1st degree | E Felony 135.45 - Custodial interference 2nd degree | A Misdemeanor 135.50 - Custodial interference 1st degree | E Felony 135.55 - Substitution of children | E Felony (switched at birth type of thing) 135.60 - Coercion 2nd degree | A Misdemeanor 150.01 - 5th degree Arson | A Misdemeanor 150.05 - 4th degree Arson | E Felony 178.10 - 4th degree Criminal diversion of prescription medications and prescriptions | A Misdemeanor 178.15 - 3rd degree Criminal diversion of prescription medications and prescriptions | E Felony 220.28 - Use of a child to commit a controlled substance offense | E Felony 240.05 - Riot 2nd degree | A Misdemeanor 240.06 - Riot 1st degree | E Felony 240.08 - Inciting to riot | A Misdemeanor 240.10 - Unlawful assembly | B Misdemeanor 240.15 - Criminal anarchy | E Felony 240.20 - Disorderly conduct | Violation 240.61 - Placing a false bomb or hazardous substance 2nd degree | E Felony 250.45 - Unlawful surveillance 2nd degree | E felony (Hidden cams for sexual gratification) 255.25 - Incest 3rd degree | E Felony 263.11 - Possessing an obscene sexual performance by a child | E Felony 263.16 - Possessing a sexual performance by a child | E Felony
Originally posted by jaynkeel
reply to post by Hopechest
I think they will continue to do sneaky late night legislation and try to ram it through. But in the long run I think the people will have the final say in the matter. The whole subject from the get go was handled improperly and done behind closed doors without the normal 3 day discovery to the population, which would have put the kibosh on it right then and there. I keep telling people right now it's about guns and ammo even if your not into those things the next laws slammed through will be on something that does effect you directly. And I think people are starting to wake up to that fact. And there is some confusion as to what they can do in the mean time concerning the law going into effect while there is legal suits going on, but this whole topic is shrouded with confusion to be honest.
Originally posted by Tardacus
The first thing i noticed about the map showing the counties for,against and undecided is that "they" are continuing to divide america.
First it was east coast vs west coast, north vs south, state vs state, now they have us divided all the way right down to the local level of county vs county, divide and conquer.
I'm not arguing with you and I agree with what your writing. I also do not like how this was handled but my point was that its rather pointless to get worked up about it now. Its obvious they aren't going to change their minds so simply let the court process work itself out.
reply to post by Klassified
We the people ARE this country. And while I'm all for the republic, and the rule of law. I'm also for the people standing up to the three branches of our government when its time to do so. That includes the Judicial branch. It's time to do so.
Originally posted by Hopechest
reply to post by jaynkeel
I understand perfectly why people don't like it.
But if court cases have started then you should be victorious fairly soon when the Supreme Court rules this unconstitutional and throws it out.
Unless you don't think its unconstitutional then I could see why you would want it stopped.
Do you think they can legally pass this?
Originally posted by DAVID64
reply to post by Hopechest
It's not about lawsuits. It's letting the politicians know what the people will or will not stand for and slapping them down before they can get started. If this went to the Supreme Court, how many years till it got a ruling? How long do the people have to abide by an unconstitutional law till it's fixed? How many go to jail over something that should have never made it on the books?