Cop Trespasses Student's Dorm, page 1

Okies lets see here, i did a search and didn't turn this one up, so please forgive
if this has already been posted.

This to me is the perfect example of what is currently wrong with our police
forces, in this video we clearly see a very rude young man in a confrontation
with officers, a little background reading led me to find out that these officers
work for both the school and the police department.

We clearly hear and see the student deny an officers request to search his
room, he has every right to do this as dorms are protected under the 4th
amendment as well, after a good long bit of disagreement and the officer
barging in past the threshold of his dorm room and then backing out,
which to me means he well knew he was breaking the rules and thought
better of it but you can hear he is angry.

After a good bit of back and forth his supervisor shows up, now things get really
scary when you actually listen to what is said to that kid, he is flat out threatened
that if he does not comply with a search he will be kicked out of school as the
police are considered school administrators as well, obviously this should raise
huge alarm bells, this child was being argumentative, it made the officers angry
and they decided they would trounce his rights because of this.

Near the end we see that even though the officer is never given consent he gets
so angry that he barges into the room anyway, and conducts a small search
and finds nothing at all, the only thing i can honestly take from all this is that if
you uphold your rights and it makes them angry, they will simply throw your
rights out the window, which is what ive feared is actually the root cause of our
police corruption.

Officers are apparently so ingrained with the idea of submission and the power
that it provides them they cannot handle you winning even if it entails hem
violating your rights.

Thankfully in this case the officer in question was of course fired, you cannot very
well attempt to use your authority as an officer/school administrator to force
someone to give up their rights, but this guy sure thought he would get away
with it, and honestly if there had not been a camera i really doubt this would have
ended in that way.

Video link

reply to post by bloodreviara

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A rather disturbing example of police intimidation but am at least happy to hear that the overweight retard with a badge and a uniform was fired for his bullying ways. Props to the guy who knew his rights too!

reply to post by DaTroof

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The student was not removed from the school, the offending officer who clearly
broke the law out of anger was let go for this indecent, while i agree the student
is being rude he has the right to do that, no where in our rights is it stipulated
that they only apply to those of us who are polite.

This is a clear case of police anger issues, they might need to consider annual
independent anger management assessment or something similar.

reply to post by DestroyDestroyDestroy

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Indeed the student did taunt the police, and while i agree he is obviously pushing
buttons that does not excuse the police breaking the law and also attempting to use
their authority to frighten someone into giving up their rights.

Police need to follow the law even more so than civilians, they send a horrible example
when they allow anger to dictate their actions instead of common sense and patience,
in this case all they had to do was walk away. they had their answer as to if they could
search his room and he had the right to answer that way, i could even grant the boy being
upset because of this. he was obviously worried enough to turn the camera on for a reason.

reply to post by bloodreviara

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He might not be removed from the school this semester, but he can become ineligible for re-enrollment. As well he should be.

reply to post by LightSpeedDriver

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It was a very disturbing look into their mind set as to civilians rights,
they seem to think our rights are what they dictate, I am also very glad
this officer was punished for ignoring both the students rights and
school policy.

I wonder if police were forced to inform you of your rights before
requesting that you lay them to the side for an illegal search would
help to curb the over zealous tactics they use now, it would force
police to learn the rights as well as reminding the public they
have rights and what they are. crazy time consuming idea, i know lol.

reply to post by DaTroof

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I completely disagree, he simply enforced his rights against an illegal search,
any repercussion school wise would also be an abuse of authority, not only
this but we can clearly see by the fact they found nothing in their search he
was rightly doing so.

Why are people so quick to punish someone simply because they have a
bad attitude, don't get me wrong i dislike rudeness as much as the next
person however it is NOT illegal and never should be. I have never met
anyone who has not been rude at least one on a horrible day or something
like that.

Originally posted by DaTroof
reply to post by bloodreviara

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He might not be removed from the school this semester, but he can become ineligible for re-enrollment. As well he should be.

Looks like you're upset of this kid exercising his rights? I've seen you do the same song and dance in other threads where is government against people...

Do you happen to be a cop?

If so, can you PLEASE tell your brothers in blue to actually follow the law also.

Pretty please?

reply to post by YapTalk

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I'm not a cop, but I think kids like the one in this video are worse than bad cops. If the kid isn't doing anything wrong, then being compliant will resolve the situation and it will be documented that he was clean. Being combative with authority escalates the situation and will be documented.

Originally posted by DaTroof
reply to post by YapTalk

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I'm not a cop, but I think kids like the one in this video are worse than bad cops. If the kid isn't doing anything wrong, then being compliant will resolve the situation and it will be documented that he was clean. Being combative with authority escalates the situation and will be documented.

An that is EXACTLY the problem. The famous if you have nothing to hide!

You have a duty NOT to comply with unlawful orders. That simple.

There is no way in hell that a person exercising their rights are worse than bad cops.

reply to post by DaTroof

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While it may have actually been resolved much quicker if he had folded
his rights it also would have been resolved much quicker if the police had
followed the LAW AND SCHOOL POLICY, they not only broke civil laws
they are required to follow they also broke the rules of the school they
work for as well, how is that OK in any reasonable way?

Why should we reward police for breaking the very laws they are paid
to enforce? you are saying its better to punish the innocent then it is
to punish the guilty simply because of anger?

That idea is really just insane to me, look at how they act when they are
constrained by laws, imagine how horrid things would be if they had no
worry about abusing their authority out of anger.......

reply to post by bloodreviara

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The kid got the cops called on him for a reason. He was being a dick to them for a reason. Maybe he swallowed all the pills he had, or found a way to hide alcohol, but something isn't right about someone being so adamant to refuse a search.

Originally posted by DaTroof
reply to post by bloodreviara

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The kid got the cops called on him for a reason. He was being a dick to them for a reason. Maybe he swallowed all the pills he had, or found a way to hide alcohol, but something isn't right about someone being so adamant to refuse a search.

WTF!

I refuse searches just out of principle! Not like I'm getting searched but it has happened at traffic stops.

What you are saying is that people should just bend over to other people with positions of "authority".

Guess where they get this so called authority from genius?

We the people!

reply to post by YapTalk

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How often do you get asked to be searched??? Why are you being asked to be searched so often?

Originally posted by DaTroof
reply to post by YapTalk

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How often do you get asked to be searched??? Why are you being asked to be searched so often?

1. Not often

2. It happens to 'minorities' all the time. That simple.

So to imply that I am some kind of criminal because I refuse any unwarranted search is not only out of line but also out of ATS taste.

Do I call you names when I clearly see you skew stories to fit your agenda? or when I see you be a cheerleader for government oppression?

No, I do not.

This is because I am smart enough to know that everyone's perceptions of reality is different, so what might make you be a government cheerleader and oppression on each and every thread can be simply that you love "people in uniform" I understand that it is YOUR RIGHT to say it and be however you want to be and I have NO RIGHT to call you names or otherwise step on any of your rights.

reply to post by YapTalk

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Not often, but often enough to refuse them out of principle? Nah, you're doing something to attract police attention that they would want to search you or your vehicle.

I know all about how minorities are treated, I'm one of them.

I don't know where you're getting your rant about name-calling from.

Originally posted by DaTroof
reply to post by YapTalk

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Not often, but often enough to refuse them out of principle? Nah, you're doing something to attract police attention that they would want to search you or your vehicle.

I know all about how minorities are treated, I'm one of them.

I don't know where you're getting your rant about name-calling from.

You said

How often do you get asked to be searched??? Why are you being asked to be searched so often?

and then said

Nah, you're doing something to attract police attention that they would want to search you or your vehicle.

Which is giving the perception that according to you I'm some kind of criminal. So I set you straight.

I still stand by my point that just because someone has a badge that gives them no right to trample all over inalienable rights.

Not mine, not YOURS or the kid's in the OP.

reply to post by YapTalk

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Now where would I get such an idea.... Hrmmm maybe from when you said you refuse searches out o fprinciple. That tells me you've been asked to be searched on multiple occasions. Traffic stops? Well then you ARE a criminal. You're breaking traffic laws.

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