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Originally posted by RadicalRebel
How then is it a far jump to conclude that this was either a test of some global space defence system (maybe tptb saved that region from a larger disaster...i.e. the ufo vid blowing up
asteroid...) or perhaps it was a failed asteroid deterent test.
It is not hard to ponder DA14 being a distraction from the larger undetected mass which they tried to blow
or divert somehow and failed.
Originally posted by RadicalRebel
PLUS tptb can easily use these events to further thier supposed agenda of space defence and
alien/bleubeam invasion....
What say you?
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by RadicalRebel
It seemed to be a rather important point to you.
I was pointing out that your idea that fireballs are rare events or that they have been reported in unusually high numbers recently is not accurate.
edit on 2/18/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by RadicalRebel
It seemed to be a rather important point to you.
I was pointing out that your idea that fireballs are rare events or that they have been reported in unusually high numbers recently is not accurate.
edit on 2/18/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by RadicalRebel
reply to post by Phage
Sorry for my lack of bring more specific...
I was refering to a number of things not all of which involved meteorites.
Look at those the reports and think about it for a minute. According to the reported fireballs statistics there was a 429% increase in fireball activity between 2006 and 2012. Does it really make sense that there was such an increase in the number of fireballs, or that it was an increase in the number of people reporting their sightings?
They have been reported in increasingly high numbers per the link you posted on another thread.
That's true. But we would tend to enter such a "meteor zone" at the same time each year, as we do meteor showers. And, while there is some anecdotal evidence for "February fireballs" the statistcial evidence isn't strong.
You cannot preclude the possibility that we are have and are entering a more active meteor zone.
What circumstances? That there have been several in the news recently? Don't you think the spectacular meteor in Russia and the passing of DA14 would contribute to interest (and thus, media coverage)? Let's go back 6 months (when we were on the opposite side of the Solar System. On the week of August 12 there were 55 reported fireballs in the US. Any media coverage of any of them? I found this:
It is possible that we aren't but the circumstances point to the fact that we are.
No, not likely. You know that the AMS is not the only database, right?
It is also likely that the increase is due to both factors, more people reporting and more meteorites.
These are not comets. They are not moving at cometary speeds and they (at least the Russian meteorite(s) are not composed of cometary materials.
which is effecting our heliosphere, could be causing disturbances in the oort cloud and sending some that material in our direction.
Why need it be debris from anything but the formation of the Solar System?
There is also the obvious, and unstated that the search continues for objects in our solar system and not every object has been accounted for...perhaps this could be debris from one of those?
And yet, when a spectacular and unusual event (Russia) occurs, the press is on it and is quick to pounce on any others...until interest moves elsewhere.
As for a lsck of US media coverage...well if it didnt effect celebrity gossip or partisan politics its no wonder it didnt mame the cut.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by RadicalRebel
No, not likely. You know that the AMS is not the only database, right?
Yes, far more likely than either suggestion alone. I suppose these other sources contain concise records of every object in the solar system, no they dont. That is why all these agencies keep sending satalites out to continue searching.
These are not comets. They are not moving at cometary speeds and they (at least the Russian meteorite(s) are not composed of cometary materials.
I am sure you have proof of these claims that you could post which would add something "constructive" to the thread...
Why need it be debris from anything but the formation of the Solar System?
Why nit-pick arbitrary information. The idea that it is there and that some government(s) have capable systems to defend against/deter it AND have used it (probably more than once) and will most likely use it again is the point.
What point, in regaurds to the topic of this thread are you trying to make. I am asking because your points are completely irrelavent to the topic. As a "seasoned" member of the site you know that is frowned upon.
You brought it up. Your claim was that there has been an increase in fireball activity. You say that you think it is evidence of intentional action. If the first premise is incorrect, it doesn't add support for the second.
Why nit-pick arbitrary information.
I thought the idea presented in the OP was that such systems were being used not as defense but to attack. I also know you have not presented any evidence that is the case. I understand that conspiracy theories can only survive on a lack of evidence but again, your premise that there has been an increase in fireball activity does not hold water and weakens your already weak theory.
The idea that it is there and that some government(s) have capable systems to defend against/deter it AND have used it (probably more than once) and will most likely use it again is the point.
Actually i never made that claim at all, i suggested the possibity was there only after it had been brought up...by you...to which i apologized for my lack of clarity in subsequent post.
Russia AND florida, among other places around the world from just the past day or two
While it may just be coincidence there have WAY too many of them recently for me.
My claim was that someone took a shot at one of these things and nearly failed.
Later i raised the idea that a government agency would/could use these events or others like them to further some assumed nefarious agenda.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by RadicalRebel
If I misunderstood the idea of a nefarious agenda I apologize. The purposeful direction of a meteor at Earth for a nefarious agenda sounds like an attack to me.
Which ignores the fact that the Russian meteor was on an entire different orbit than DA14. And also ignores the fact that there was nothing unusual about the other fireball activity reported.
1) at some point prior to da14's close pass, someone took a shot at it and it broke up un expectedly leaving a trail of debris to rain upon us.
The Russian object was significantly smaller than DA14.
2) a government told us about da14 to take eyes off the larger, more dangerous possible impact that again "seemingly" destroyed at the last second.
What tech? All you have shown is proposals for methods of dealing with an asteroid impact on Earth.
I just think, the idea of this tech shows the misdirection given to us by government