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I'm a felon, I've served my time...can I have my rights back please?

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posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by spqrenki
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And look at that, you're from Chicago! I guess sanity still does reside in Liberal states.


I'm from Chicago and hate Obama.... Life is tough here...hahaha




posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:14 PM
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What?! You don't support Capon... I mean Obama? Blasphemy!



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by spqrenki
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What?! You don't support Capon... I mean Obama? Blasphemy!


Yea its incredible how so many Chicago residents just love this man unconditionally because he's from Chicago.... It blows my mind... They don't care about his policies or anything, they just care he's a democratic/minority President and that's good enough...



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:16 PM
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but he didn't use a gun to commit the crime, I would trust him with a gun 100%.
I tell you what though, i have a harder time trusting some of the people that are allowed to have guns.

the punishment should match the crime.
edit on 07/16/2009 by Lichter daraus because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:20 PM
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I feel that there should be panel established for each state that listens to felons (hearings) and if they want their "rights" back they need to prove that they are rehabilitated. There should be a guideline based off the crimes, time served, probation, etc... everything being valued and if they meet criteria they get those rights back..



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by Lichter daraus
reply to post by needlenight
 


but he didn't use a gun to commit the crime, I would trust him with a gun 100%.
I tell you what though, i have a harder time trusting some of the people that are allowed to have guns.

the punishment should match the crime.
edit on 07/16/2009 by Lichter daraus because: (no reason given)


Trusting a stranger 100% with a gun, just by the words he has typed on an online forum?
Now I know your crazy..



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:24 PM
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I think we just need to abide by the constitution and politicians need to understand that certain rights are inalienable. Like I said, if a felon wants a gun, that felon will find a gun. No amount of laws are going to stop that.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by spqrenki
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I think we just need to abide by the constitution and politicians need to understand that certain rights are inalienable. Like I said, if a felon wants a gun, that felon will find a gun. No amount of laws are going to stop that.


Oh i agree with you there.... And since becoming an adult, I've always known that if I commit a felony I will give up all these rights I've come to enjoy... So because of that I don't commit felonies... Pretty simple system to follow...



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by needlenight

Originally posted by Lichter daraus
reply to post by needlenight
 


but he didn't use a gun to commit the crime, I would trust him with a gun 100%.
I tell you what though, i have a harder time trusting some of the people that are allowed to have guns.

the punishment should match the crime.
edit on 07/16/2009 by Lichter daraus because: (no reason given)


Trusting a stranger 100% with a gun, just by the words he has typed on an online forum?
Now I know your crazy..



not crazy, ok sorry i should have said it differently so you can understand. obviously if I knew him better and knew his history more then I could trust him 100%.

that doesn't change the fact that the punishment should match the crime, don't ignore that fact.
So your gonna just pick apart my post. address all of it not just part of it.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:38 PM
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the rest will be with you very soon with or without a felony god help us



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:39 PM
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edit on 07/16/2009 by Lichter daraus because: double post



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:44 PM
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Not only probably 20-30 years ago people wouldnt have had such a strong reaction to a fight.

I think the issue is inspired more by the social divide, as we climb down the ladder this issue becomes more acceptable, as we climb up the ladder this issue becomes more serious. Its almost as if the harder your life the more your willing to accept and the easier your life less your willing to accept.

That claim could be off base, does anyone else notice this? Not to be off topic....

Oh and just to add, it seems as if the bottom half of the social divide are more inclined to this type of behavior as well. Interesting i guess...



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by jhn7537
I feel that there should be panel established for each state that listens to felons (hearings) and if they want their "rights" back they need to prove that they are rehabilitated. There should be a guideline based off the crimes, time served, probation, etc... everything being valued and if they meet criteria they get those rights back..


There we go. Panels that decide which subjects are to be considered equal, and which ones will be just a little less equal. Sounds like liberty to me.


Nothing like using subjective rules based on moral guidelines cum law of the land to stifle the freedoms of the individual. I mean, it isn't like the Land of the Free is the most imprisoned nation on the planet or anything.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:51 PM
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I can agree with you.

The freest and most imprisoned country on the planet....ehh what?

Interesting way of putting it.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by JackofBlades


I didn't grow up in an 'ideal' situation. But I've never once even been tempted to 'go along to get along.
Ummm....I know...I know....there is no such thing as each situation and life being unique to the experiencer or one who lives it...Why...were all just living the same life without exception, closer to each other than clones. It's sure a good thing we've got you to remind us that it's ground hog day each and every minute and we all have to be...you....cause nothing is ever different for anyone else...anywhere...ever.

Fact is felony is felony
Ummm.....yup...just like breaking the law is breaking the law...there's never any degree of seperation...huh? That's why jaywalking and driving over a solid painted line on the road means your as bad as a child molester, a veritable Jeffry Dahmer or Charles Manson...and deserve the same fate.
I'm sure glad we've got you to keep us cattle in line...........taze me bro...Just taze me senseless.

Another fine Captain Kirk moment

YouSir
edit on 18-2-2013 by YouSir because: I was really going for levity......no...really.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:53 PM
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I guess the way it could be seen is like this...

If the bottom half of the population and social divide are are in prison or have criminal records then we dont have to worry about them voting or having guns.

Hmm...



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:59 PM
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We all make choices and we all have to live with them. If you put yourself in the "lower half", as you call it, then you have to deal with the consequences.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by onequestion
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I guess the way it could be seen is like this...

If the bottom half of the population and social divide are are in prison or have criminal records then we dont have to worry about them voting or having guns.

Hmm...
Ummm...Tell me you didn't just go there? Cause the other half of that coin is...the other half of population and/or the social divide just haven't been caught, or were able to grease the squeaky wheel.....So in this complete picture of your wonderful world...Everyone gets to be a non-voting no-rights felon.......Hey..wait a minute...THATS how you progressives dream of disarming the masses....What a sneaky bunch of better than me's....

YouSir



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 05:17 PM
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Maybe it's just that the other half have behaved themselves.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 05:35 PM
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That's great and all, but I've seen it with my own eyes more than once. Are you calling me a liar? Because I respect other people's opinions, but when I have personally been involved in situations I don't appreciate someone telling me I'm wrong. I'm sure any reasonable person would agree with that. Feel free to give your opinion on the matter, but don't ever tell me that I didn't do something that I did. It's the reason I left that line of work. That's one of the problems with the system: people out of touch with what is really going on and philosophizing how things actually work. The best way to find out how many teeth a horse has isn't to talk about it, it's to look in his mouth and count them.

Yes, this is a sensitive subject to me. To this day I feel horrible about many of the things I was party to- all in the name of justice.


Remember: There are none so blind as those who will not see.



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