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posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 10:37 PM
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Women have to wear the hijab by law in Iran. That sounds pretty forced to me. If women wanted to willingly do it, it wouldn't have to be a forced by force. Maybe some Iranian women have no problem wearing it, but there is no way that it is ALL..

I grew up by a ton of ME immigrants. Very few of them wore hijab....... I wonder why!

But I never said Iran had to answer to the US. I just said it was a crap country to live in personal freedom wise.


"Bad hijab" ― exposure of any part of the body other than hands and face – is subject to punishment of up to 70 lashes or 60 days imprisonment.[8][9] In April 2007, the Tehran police, (which is under Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei's supervision), began the most fierce crackdown on what is known as "bad hijab" in more than a decade. In the capital Tehran thousands of Iranian women were cautioned over their poor Islamic dress and several hundred arrested.[10]





Any country that forces women to wear gigantic big black sheets when in public sucks. Why can't you just admit that? Would you want to be forced to wear that by law?

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posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 10:46 PM
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As much as I understand what you are saying, I think people need to understand the views of Muslims also. Knowing Iran is a strictly religious country and doesn't really take into account anything we may believe here in the West, we need to understand why they would also do something like this. Now they could go ahead and take every Cross with Jesus hanging from it if they wanted because in their eyes, that would be an Idol. The same as Buddha, Britney Spears or even a statue of Abraham Lincoln.

It is part of their religion whether we like it or not. Its the same as wearing a hijab. Some in the West say its a violation of womens rights, others disagree and would rather wear it. Our cultures are very different, what we see as OK, they might not and what we see as bad in Iran may not be as bad as what we think. I can pick out numerous things about the West that disgust me, Toddlers in Tiaras is one of them


But when it comes down to it, worshipping Idols is against Islam, Is meant to be against the Bible. So if they see the need to confiscate statues of Buddha because of their religious beliefs, thats their right and whether we accept it or not really doesn't matter. They believe the only thing that should be worshipped is God, Allah to them. God is also shapeless to them which means he should not be depicted in any way. If thats the case, what the hell are Christians worshipping to start with?

Again I'm not saying that buddhism is a bad philosophy, I'm sure people can learn a lot from it but when it comes down to it, it is not a god worshipping practice and in an Islamic country whether its a violation of Human rights, religious freedom or anything else, Muslims will not and do not accept Idols.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 11:03 PM
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Well let me ask you this.. Do you think its possible that our women dressing the way they do, acting the way they do contribute to some of the issues we have in ours countries today? I'm not being sexist because I understand men can take just as much of the blame. But I can see where Muslims are also coming from. Its seems these rights that we are so concerned about in other countries could be the underlying problems in our countries also.



To the Muslims, our views could be nothing more than wreckless..



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 01:54 AM
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I am getting depressed by reading this, but on the other hand they murder their wife's for basically talking to other men.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 02:34 AM
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Originally posted by purplemer

Why do you always make beefing threads about Iran.. You should at the very least look at why you choose to regurgitate this propaganda. . They want people to hate the regime in Iran.. So they can bomb it back into the stone age..

Really it is a lovely country. A visit on your part might well change your views...


Don't get too dewy eyed over the regime in Iran.

I asked one Iranian I know what the badge he was wearing meant. He told me it was a symbol of support for the old Shah of Iran who was disposed by the religious fundamentalists in 1979.

He informed me that if he wore it in Iran, he would be executed.


Originally posted by purplemer

We live in a world full of armchair experts...


Indeed we do. Indeed we do.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 03:37 AM
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AS an Iranian.

You know what OP wants me to do ?

"you're right"

Even though your are blind enemy of Islam and you just get information by western imperialist MSM, but you will always be on this loop. you are right.

keep up the good work OP.

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posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 03:50 AM
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Foxnews is not a source, it's a pile of garbage wrapped in a blanket of political bias and sinister agenda, ready to be spoon fed to the brainwashed masses.

So all I see here is - yet again - a unsubstantiated claim, posted without verification or analysis, solely serving the purpose of generating hatred against Iran.

The OP should be ashamed.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:29 AM
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Originally posted by H1ght3chHippie
Foxnews is not a source, it's a pile of garbage wrapped in a blanket of political bias and sinister agenda, ready to be spoon fed to the brainwashed masses.

So all I see here is - yet again - a unsubstantiated claim, posted without verification or analysis, solely serving the purpose of generating hatred against Iran.

The OP should be ashamed.


I take it you missed his post where he provided numerous links to the incident from other established news outlets, including ABC, The Guardian, AP from Tehran, The Miami Herald and the Connecticut Post?

Link



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 04:44 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by purplemer

Why do you always make beefing threads about Iran.. You should at the very least look at why you choose to regurgitate this propaganda. . They want people to hate the regime in Iran.. So they can bomb it back into the stone age..

Really it is a lovely country. A visit on your part might well change your views...


Don't get too dewy eyed over the regime in Iran.

I asked one Iranian I know what the badge he was wearing meant. He told me it was a symbol of support for the old Shah of Iran who was disposed by the religious fundamentalists in 1979.

He informed me that if he wore it in Iran, he would be executed.


Originally posted by purplemer

We live in a world full of armchair experts...


Indeed we do. Indeed we do.



So he wears an old badge that supported a American placed dictator that allowed American companies to rape Iran's natural resources. Why would he want to go back it sounds like he didn't like it in the first place.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 05:14 AM
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To those saying Buddhism is not a religion. Buddhism doesn't worship a god. Buddhism doesn't need idols.

You're wrong


What you're doing is no different than the Christians that say "oh them....they're not 'real Christians' " "they're not real Christians because XYZ"

You're basing this on what you deem the proper interpretation. Now before you're too quick to point out what Buddhism looked like in intent back when Siddhārtha Gautama was showing people his middle way, you have to understand that's not pertinent to the issue here. We are taking about Buddhism today. Regardless of the "right way" to practice it. In fact, religious tolerance is incompatible with the notion of discriminating against 'improper' interpretations is it not?....

Buddha not wanting to be revered as a god didn't stop Buddhism from splintering into sects that do in fact worship him as one. Buddha not wanting idol worship didn't stop Buddhism from splintering into sects that idol worship. This isn't about Buddha, it's about Buddhism, as a religion today in the World. Regardless of whether it's 'true Buddhism' some 'Buddhists' believe they need their statues


I happen to agree with the critique here that Buddhism is not a religion, doesn't have a god, and is a philosophy. In the spirit of religious tolerance others should be allowed their take on it as well.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 05:23 AM
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After reading theop (haven't had a chance to read all replies yet) my first thoughts are maybe all countries should follow japan"s lead.I have just received this email and thought it would fit here with my thoughts

start of email:
"I NEVER KNEW THIS ABOUT JAPAN
The Japanese are a very evolved race.

Have you ever read in the newspaper that a political leader or a prime
minister from an Islamic nation has visited Japan?
Have you ever come across news that the Ayatollah of Iran or the King of
Saudi Arabia or even a Saudi Prince has visited Japan?

Japan is a country keeping Islam at bay.
Japan has put strict restrictions on Islam and ALL Muslims.
The reasons are:

a) Japan is the only nation that does not give citizenship to Muslims.
b) In Japan permanent residency is not given to Muslims.
c) There is a strong ban on the propagation of Islam in Japan.
d) In the University of Japan, Arabic or any Islamic language is not taught.
e) One cannot import a 'Koran' published in the Arabic language.
f) According to data published by the Japanese government, it has given
temporary residency to only 2 lakhs, Muslims, who must follow the Japanese
Law of the Land. These Muslims should speak Japanese and carry their
religious rituals in their homes.
g) Japan is the only country in the world that has a negligible number of
embassies in Islamic countries.
h) Japanese people are not attracted to Islam at all.
I) Muslims residing in Japan are the employees of foreign companies.
j) Even today, visas are not granted to Muslim doctors, engineers or
managers sent by foreign companies.
k) In the majority of companies it is stated in their regulations that no
Muslims should apply for a job.
l) The Japanese government is of the opinion that Muslims are fundamentalist
and even in the era of globalization they are not willing to change their
Muslim laws.
m) Muslims cannot even think about renting a house in Japan.
n) If anyone comes to know that his neighbor is a Muslim then the whole
neighborhood stays alert.
o) No one can start an Islamic cell or Arabic 'Madrasa' in Japan
p) There is no Sharia law in Japan.
q) If a Japanese woman marries a Muslim then she is considered an outcast
forever.
r) According to Mr. Kumiko Yagi, Professor of Arab/Islamic Studies at Tokyo
University of Foreign Studies, "There is a mind frame in Japan that Islam is
a very narrow minded religion and one should stay away from it."
s) Freelance journalist Mohammed Juber toured many Islamic countries after
9/11 including Japan. He found that the Japanese were confident that
extremists could do no harm in Japan.

My personal estimation of the Japanese has risen dramatically!
VERY SMART PEOPLE"

end of email



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 05:28 AM
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Or a bunch of racist a/holes.. Maybe they should stop building nuclear reactors on faultlines if they are so enlightened.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 05:39 AM
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I take it you missed the actual reasoning behind it near the end of the articles? The OP has a long standing history of twisting a headline/article to make Iran the boogeyman. I wonder how she would have fared during McCarthyism or the Salem Trials?



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 05:47 AM
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I am confused on D and R.


d) In the University of Japan, Arabic or any Islamic language is not taught.



r) According to Mr. Kumiko Yagi, Professor of Arab/Islamic Studies at Tokyo University of Foreign Studies



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 05:50 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by DarknStormy

Originally posted by SaturnFX
Then tell me Why are they removing Buddha statues in Iran?

Heard of Idles?


Even if the Buddhists were worshipping Idols .. which they are not .. then that would be their right to do so under relgious freedom.

The Buddhist setup is a lot like the catholic one ... they have monks and nuns .. they have monasteries ... they have monks and nuns in robes, like Catholics have habits and cassocks ... they have rituals .. they have a spirit world ... they have little statues of buddah like Catholics have little statues of Jesus and the saints ... they have revered lamas who are the reincarnation of past masters come back to help, like the Catholics have revered Saints who help from heaven.

The buddah statues are a part of all this.



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 06:07 AM
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It doesnt matter if its Buddha , Amun Ra , Atta , Mohammed, Christ. Someone is always gonna try to take something away in order to piss off the little guy



posted on Feb, 18 2013 @ 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by H1ght3chHippie
Foxnews is not a source, ..... The OP should be ashamed.

Read the thread before you post. I posted links showing this story from the AP .. AP Tehran ... The Guardian, The Miami Herald, The Connecticut Post .. and I could have posted many many more ...


As far as people who should be ashamed .. it's those who are turning a blind eye to what Iran is doing and who are throwing mud at me because I simply posted the fact that the government of Iran is indeed going against it's own laws. THOSE are the people who should be ashamed.





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