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David Icke and Alex Jones Discuss The Nature Of Reality.

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posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 05:34 AM
Thus the Lord on those who reject faith:

7. Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur).

This thread somehow made me think of this, I thought I'd share.

Do they live a fixed reality?

posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 07:24 AM
reply to post by Angle

Sounds like you're quoting some bad ass ET who doesn't like Humans much.

posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:06 AM
reply to post by cyoshi

He likes humans, he just doesn't like the rest of the species among them since they rejected Him.. apparently. Do you like those who reject you somehow?

posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 09:43 AM

Originally posted by cyoshi
reply to post by billdadobbie

Utterly ridiculous to suggest those two are a part of the establishment, just the kind of thing a spook might like to spread.

It's very reasonable to consider Alex Jones is part of the establishment. The mere fact that he's still alive, still talking trash and still publicly uncovering 'secrets' is almost proof enough that he is a shill working for the establishment.

He's the 'good' cop (the one who embraces the public because he enlightens them) in the good-cop/bad-cop world of the Elite. The others (in part) work for FOX news!

The silenced speakers are usually the honest ones.
See: William Cooper and JFK!

posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 10:13 AM

Originally posted by Dispo
reply to post by cyoshi

To start with, they have absolutely no evidence. They are saying things that they are inferring from the world around them, things which are open to many different interpretations.

For example, Icke claims that the bloodlines control the world. If we accept that as true for a minute, which is doubtful itself, he then goes on to claim that this is because they're the instruments of the programmers. Alternatively, are they in charge of the world because their ancestors were in the right place at the right time to make money, and then through the generations they've used that money to make more money?

They take the conclusions of some scientific papers, which they don't reference, and then describe the findings out of context, which is that reality isn't real. They then claim that this means there is an evil programmer who made the world. Do you see how those two statements are non sequiteur? One does not follow the other, they do not support each other, they are mutually exclusive, but they use one to support the other in a never ending circle of faulty logic.

This goes back to what I said earlier, about AJ listeners being, in general, more psychologically malleable than the general population. Telling mentally impaired and unhinged people that reality is all a lie and everyone is out to get them and basically making things up with no evidence and presenting it as fact, while describing yourself as a messiah of sorts is bloody stupid and dangerous.

What Alex and Ick are doing is like solving puzzle pieces, some pieces may fit for a little but may seem a little off until you find the correct pieces. As events unfold, some of the pieces make it more clear where they belong.

This podcast is about generating awareness, it wasn't about scientific evidence, the science is there, I've seen it and well aware of the scientist that working on the simulation theory, even some mainstream scientist are working on it. The math is there and it's becoming more evident this reality is not based off of Newtonian theory. If you did a little research you'll see find out what they are talking about.

Really doesn't take much logic to see what they are talking about, maybe a little cleverness and creativity but the truth reveals itself rather quickly when you look at all the people invovled with the governmental system. There's so much to look into it would take much longer than hour podcast to cover that is why they written books...

But nowadays you dont need books to see whats going on when you have the internet, just be skeptic to everything you hear and only open up to what resonates in your heart.

When Icke speaks of a programmer, he's not talking The Divine source, he's talking about the conscious that is aware and influencing it's mentality onto the humans, and humans become puppets when they are dumbed down. Look into the eugenics experiments funded by our government, that should slap your face into reality.

There's soo much evidence by governmental experiments alone that prove what these men are saying is true or partial truth, if you want to call them out saying they're lieing then you haven't researched yourself. Look around you and all of propaganda you see for instance we fund the system with our taxes for war in the name of peace? How ass backwards is that? And they feed this too you over and over until you start believing it and make sense in your own little world. Anyone who is no in-trapped by it can see the obvious delusions the system creates. Things like that you must become aware and these are the things AJ and Icke are creating awareness for.

posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 10:49 AM
the problem with both of these men, is that they insult us with phrases like "you don't understand"..."you are the sheep"..."you are victims"..."prison planet"...these 2 men apparently think that "the rest of us" cannot think critically, and lack wisdom and knowledge of the "truth" . they are insulting, and arrogant, and speak in such broad generalizations, that they themselves, appear to be the ones that have been "dumbed down"

posted on Feb, 19 2013 @ 11:05 AM
The Science article that created the hype about Cosmic Rays going out into the universe could prove we're in a simulation....

That article was a theory. There was no actual scientific measurement.

Cosmic Rays going out into the Universe and disipating as it travels out.....we don't even understand what Dark Matter and Dark Energy is...which makes up most of the Universe.

It's all a cospiracy theory.Fitting to have Alex Jones talk about it though.

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