reply to post by Deetermined
Can you please explain the significance of the Matthew 15:19-20 verse. By not including idol worship, putting God as ones highest priority and above
all else, coveting, and Sabbath that the absence of these mentioned somehow is not defiling to a man or important to God as well?
This passage has an absence of similar commandments as your Matthew 15:19-20 but this time blasphemy is absent from the list as well. The list is
exclusively dealing with aspects of how people interact with each other which is what the last 6 commandments of the 10 commandments deal with. The
rich young man is asking what deeds he must do. Jesus gives him a list dealing with human relations which the young man says he has done. What does
Jesus say next...."if you want to be made perfect sell all you possessions, give them to the poor and follow me"
Was following the commandments just on human relations enough...No, so what does that tell you about the worth of Matthew 15:19-20 in isolation.
Jesus knew the man had an issue about being attached to his worldly possession so framed the message on the area he lacked, emphasizing whether his
love for God was more important to him that money. So what commandments are dealing with one prioritizing God and showing Him love?
I made a brief mention of this passage in support of the Sabbath to Adjensen
but I will flesh it out a bit more for you in the context of your
verses in this post as well.
Your Matthew 15:19-20 was a mixture of commandments dealing mostly with human relations, and your Matthew 19 passage dealt exclusively with human
relations until we are told shortly after this the importance of following God. Now in your Matthew 22 passage we see that Jesus actually prioritizing
the summarizing commandment of loving you God first which is not the impression we might have got from Matthew 15 and 22 right?
Loving your neighbor as yourself is also a summary statement to reflect the principles of commandments 5 through 10. We also know that these two
summarizing commandments contain within themselves all the principles of the law and the prophets teachings.
So was do the prophets teach about the Sabbath...
Moreover also I gave  them my sabbaths,  to be a sign  between me and them, that they might know  that I [am] the LORD 
that sanctify  them.
And hallow  my sabbaths;  and they shall be a sign  between me and you, that ye may know  that I [am] the LORD  your
What is the word meaning of this strongs #0226 word?
SIGN: Hebrew: 'owth', meaning - sign, token, ensign, mark, a distinguishing mark, signal, banner, remembrance
Do you think keeping God's commandment that specifically deals with showing that you are God's particular people to the exclusion of any other god is
showing love to God? Did you think keeping God's mark
might be important for us in the Tribulation when we have the beast's mark false-Sabbath
Sunday come in?
In talking about the New Covenant we here Jeremiah describe it like this:
31 "Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, 32 not
like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they
broke, though I was their husband, declares the Lord. 33 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares
the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34 And no longer
shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the
greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."
How is it described who this new covenant would be with that is the covenant for Christians to follow....”With the house of Israel and the house of
Exodus 31:17 It is a sign [Hebrew - 'Owth'] between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on
the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed
So when Moses says that the Sabbath is God’s distinguishing mark between Him and His people of the new covenant (the children of Israel) do you
think He is referring to Christians?
Isaiah is a prophet and he tells us to keep the Sabbath (Isaiah 56:6,7, Isaiah 58:13,14) as part of the terms of the new covenant.
What are we told to do from the prophet John in his prophetic visions written in Revelation to combat the beast who forces people to worship his image
(Rev. 13:15).To set ourselves up in opposition to this apostate worship we are told to...
Revelation 14:7 ... Worship the one who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water
So how do we distinguish ourselves that follow the Creator...is there a commandment that makes any mention specific to being unique to the Creator?
Is it any coincidence then that in the giving on the 4th commandment on the Sabbath that an also identical description clearly identifying the Creator
Exodus 20:11 'For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD
blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it
Is it any coincidence that the Sabbath is God’s distinguishing mark of His people FOREVER (Exodus 31:17)
Is it any coincidence that the Catholic Church has their own “Sign” to distinguish themselves too!
The Catholic Church says:
"Is not yet too late for Protestants to redeem themselves. Will they do it?... will they indeed take the written word only, the Scripture alone,
as their sole authority and their sole standard? Or will they still hold the indefensible, self contradictory, and suicidal doctrine and practice of
following the authority of the Catholic church and wear the SIGN of her authority? Will they keep the Sabbath of the Lord, the seventh day, according
to Scripture? Or will they keep the Sunday according to the tradition of the Catholic church
We know that the Catholic church changed the worship from Sabbath to Sunday, they admit as much:
The Catholic church for over one thousand years before the existence of a Protestant, by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from
Saturday to Sunday
- James Cardinal Gibbons in the Catholic Mirror, September 23, 1983
So you would naturally think that the Catholic church would openly bad mouth the Sabbath commandment and Seventh-Day Adventist’s for keeping it and
promoting for others to keep...well, what (are just a few statements of many) do we find the Catholic church say:
“Perhaps the boldest thing, the most revolutionary change the Church ever did, happened in the first century. The holy day, the Sabbath, was
changed from Saturday to Sunday. ‘The day of the Lord’ was chosen, not from any direction noted in the Scriptures, but from the (Catholic)
Church’s sense of its own power...People who think that the Scriptures should be the sole authority, should logically become 7th Day Adventists, and
keep Saturday holy.” — St. Catherine Church Sentinel, Algonac, Michigan, May 21, 1995.
The Adventists are the only body of Christians with the Bible as their teacher, who could find no warrant in its pages for the change of day from
the seventh to the first. Hence their appellation," Seventh-day Adventists. "They're cardinal principle consists in setting apart Saturday for the
exclusive worship of God, in conformity with the positive command of God Himself, repeatedly reiterated in the sacred books of the Old and New
testaments, literally kept by the children of Israel for thousands of years to this day, and endorsed by the teaching and practice of the Son of God
while on earth.
The Catholic church approves of Adventist’s interpretation of scripture knowing our understanding of the verses is spot on correct in relation to
“Most Christians assume that Sunday is the biblically approved day of worship. The Catholic Church protests that it transferred Christian
worship from the biblical Sabbath (Saturday) to Sunday, and that to try to argue that the change was made in the Bible is both dishonest and a denial
of Catholic authority. If Protestantism wants to base its teachings only on the Bible, it should worship on Saturday.”
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