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posted on Feb, 16 2013 @ 11:15 PM
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this is why i believe we should say grace before we partake in each meal good post




posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 04:37 AM
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Originally posted by GRS1234

Originally posted by Wifibrains
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Evolution is obvious! I'm asking for ideas on how it made these observations to mimic them? Evolution explains the process of morphing into a mimicry species, but how to they differentiate between colours and smell, shape ect?


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lol funny but yea its evolution
jking honestly i believe its on a whole nother level than we can measure in my opinion i dont know much about plant concioussness but i do believe they send a signal through the atmosphere just like our human brain dose maybe the via electro magnetism they can see feel and smell just a wild guess you know sense via the electro magnetic aurora of entities ie the wasp and bee and such its just a wild guess im not to sure FnS very good question wifi im still waiting on pt 2 btw
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Good idea, the plants may well be able to feel or sense through that medium, or even comunicate. Feeling the electromagnet energy of the wasp/bee and over time evolving to mimic the shape and size and even colour. Plants are sensitive to vibrations, music ect, so yeah, colors have a frequencies and plants are specialists in light. I'm still stumped on imitating the smell. I sopose it may depend on what sort of information is present in the electromagnetic fields. Nice one.
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posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 04:43 AM
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my point exactly wifi



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 04:51 AM
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Originally posted by misscurious

Originally posted by Wifibrains
reply to post by intrepid
 


Evolution is obvious! I'm asking for ideas on how it made these observations to mimic them? Evolution explains the process of morphing into a mimicry species, but how to they differentiate between colours and smell, shape ect?


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The plant didn't make any observations, it was Trial and error.. the ones that turned red became extinct, the ones that turned yellow survived.. same with with shapes and smells.. were talking millions of years here..


and what i believe miss curious was refering to here was natural selection you and me on the other hand want to go deeper then that as depicted in my earlier posts the electromagnetishpere pretty much sums up the 4 senses of course just a theory but i am interested in the smell part that is a head scratcher for sure!!!!!
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posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 04:56 AM
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Here is a Thread i did about the subject.
It is based on a book with the same name.

Secret Life of Plants




In the study of paranormal phenomenon Plant perception, or biocommunication in plant cells, has come to mean a belief that plants are sentient, that they experience pain, pleasure, or emotions such as fear and affection, and
that they have the ability to communicate with humans and other forms of life in a recognizable manner.
While plants can communicate through chemical signals, and certainly have complex responses to stimuli, the belief that they possess advanced affective or cognitive abilities receives little support except in the parapsychology studies community and among believers in the Gaia hypothesis.
en.wikipedia.org...(paranormal)


Cleve Backster polygraph experiments
www.youtube.com...



I can't believe I hadn't heard about this book before I found it on the shelf. Published in the 1970s, it explores
the relationship between humans and plant life. Numerous scientific studies with lie detector tests, electrodes, and other '70s high-tech instruments produce astounding results. Plants have feelings: they feel fear, they help each
other, they try to communicate, they like music! Plants can read your mind. Kate, Powells.com
www.powells.com...



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 04:59 AM
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While I don't deny natural selection as an evolutionary process, it simply decides which species will survive, in a survival of the fittest type attitude. I don't believe it is the answer for everything, more a cop out, especially when it comes to plants mimicking other animals. I think there is more to it...



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 05:09 AM
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GENESIS
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

just a metaphorical bible reference to see how different wave lengths or {dimesions} where formed not to take the thread off road or anything but what im getting at is what if everything around us was alive and we could not tell the difference sorry wifi had to throw it in


DISCLAIMER: this bible translation from me is not meant to be taken literal if you cant understand it i am sorry

P.S. you see in the YT movie that he linked the plant can pierce our concioussness makes you wonder what kind of spiritual level they are on
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posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 05:23 AM
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Psychics used to talk to plants, and give them more oxygen. Their intelligence - the plants, not the psychics, or at least most of them - must be measured in slow motion. I've met a person who claims to hear plants scream when they are pulled from the ground (having no mouth I don't know what they scream with). And in our own minds and literature we have realms where some plants are very intelligent.

I have an intelligent plant story that's worth a thread in itself which will have to wait until I get someone who knows how to upload pictures from a real-world picture (my tech savvy is on par with a plants). It concerns a cactus, and might blow people away as it did me witnessing it firsthand. No spoilers from me though. Thanks for the thread, a great topic.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 05:26 AM
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lol how do you know its on par with the plants the plants might just be on a higher IQ and from the evidence wifi and other have contributed i think might be the case for all of us! lol just a statement
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posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 05:42 AM
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Once they are on your pc, Upload the pics to ats using the tool bar, then link them in your thread using the image button when composing the thread.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 07:52 AM
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P.S. you see in the YT movie that he linked the plant can pierce our concioussness makes you wonder what kind of spiritual level they are on


Very true, they have had eons to perfect themselves, and have been very successful in surviving the test of time. we have not even began when you think of it like that.
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posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 08:25 AM
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Yup, plant intelligence is under-rated.


And ours is over-rated.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 08:31 AM
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Stuff they don't want you to know: plant intelligence.

(sounds abit slow, not sure what's up with that)




posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 08:33 AM
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I can agree with that.


Nice avatar too, very fitting.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 08:36 AM
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its big foot i knew he existed lol nice avatar too
yea ours is over rated and i believe it stems from the male and female ego as a whole that damn pesky barrier of uselessness you know em right? hes the big white elephant in my room lol
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posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 08:51 AM
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They must be intelligent. After looking through a ton of pictures of the inside of the House and Senate, I can not find a picture with a single plant in them.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 09:08 AM
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I doubt you'll find anything with "life" in it in that place, lol. If you do, rest assured they just on a flyin visit.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 11:31 AM
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The first year I started a vegetable garden, I had my mind blown. I do believe there is an intelligence there- I don't know if it is each specific plant or more like a unified conciousness of Nature. It makes you look at your world in a new light I can tell you.
Regarding knowing what the colors are.. there is a young man here in Texas (I believe) that became blind. He has become an incredible painter just by Feeling the colors. Really amazing. Painting by touch .



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 11:56 AM
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I've had my own experience with growing plants and feeling as if there some sort of connection. Maybe because i raised them from seed., watered and made them good for light, it was a mothering instinct lol. Im sure they appreciated it. And the link you added about the blind painter gives credit towards color being able to be distinguished in another sense as apose to sight. The thinking and deciding what to do when the plant took that evolutionary step, is what gets me. Truly amazing. I agree it's not the plants indevidualy but the mass consiousness it connects to in its soroundings in nature.



posted on Feb, 17 2013 @ 12:50 PM
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How can plants have a consciousness without a brain? It's just organic material.

If they do have a consciousness the vegetarians/vegans are going to starve if they refuse to eat anything that is self aware, and I'll get slapped by hippies every time I take a pinch of snüs





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