reply to post by SimonPeter
Hi Simon Peter
You wrote : QUOTE
"Saul was a Jew born in Rome who was a Pharisees and a son of a Pharisees" -
I'm not sure how you place the port city of Tarsus ('Saul of Tarsus' i.e. his birth place) in Rome, when Tarsus was the capital city of Cilicia in
present-day Turkey - no where near Rome, or Jerusalem for that matter.
Interestingly, it was the Cilician pirates (many of them of Jewish extraction that had 'gone pagan') out of Tarsus that introduced 'Mithraism' into
Rome from Persia (i.e. the worship of the Iranian Mediator god Mitra) c. 79 BCE -
Mithraism became the greatest competitor to Christianity or the Mysteries of Christ as they were called (i.e. as a rival salvation cult or 'Mystery
Religion') by the time Saul/Paul came around -
In fact the Mithraic cult also had a Bread and Wine Eucharist ceremony as well as baptism and catechism etc. ref: their own saviour god (the Roman
version call him Mithras, whose powers echoed Helios the Sun god who dies and rises every day and every year ) whose titles included 'the Sun of
Righteousness' , the 'Mediator between gods and men'; and 'Saviour of the World' etc
Saul of Tarsus uses several dozen Mithraic terms in his own warped theology e.g. 'behold I tell you a Musterion: we shall not all sleep, but we shall
all be metamorphosised - in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye...'
or 'This is my Body which is broken for the Many...take and eat: also this is my Blood which has been shed for the Many, drink ye all of it...' all
of which have Mithraic Mystery Religion overtones.
And these specific liturgical/cultic Mystery Religious terms were in wide use more than 100 years (e.g. within the Mithraic Mystery cults as well as
in the Serapis and Orphic and Eleusian Mysteries) long before Saul began his torture & killing of Nazorean Messianists (i.e. the Evionim, 'the Poor
ones' whose group was headed up by the brother of R. Yehoshua bar Yosef the Galilean Nazir aka Gk. ho Iesous - the blood family of 'Iesous' who
represented the Torah Abiders, i.e. the arch enemies of Saul/Paul - see Galatians chapter 2 where Saul of Tarsus says 'Jacob and Peter, those two
so-called Pillars of the Ekklesia...' where the tone is hostile.
The family of 'ho Iesous' (i.e. R. Yehoshua bar Yosef) aka 'Iesus' who ran the Evionim (i.e. Nazorean Messianists, or 'Palestinian Christians') was
more or less wiped out by the time the 1st Failed Jewish War against Rome was over in 72 CE - leaving Saul's 'Torah-Free; churches alive and well in
the Empire with Palestine ground to powder in the meantime by the superior Roman Army.
So Saul's being born in Tarsus (the capital of Roman Mithraism) seems to have infected his theology with Mithraisms' when he 'preached to the goyim'
i.e. gentiles / non Jews about 'the Kingdom of Heaven'
Curiously perhaps, the Mithraic 'Persian cap' shape worn by Mithra when slaying the Ritual Bull is what inspired the shape of the modern Bishop's
'Mitre' (which term comes from Mitra) and of course the birth-day of Mithras was...you guessed it, December 25th - when the shadows start to get
longer again after the 'dead' winter solstice.
At any rate, Saul of Tarsus may have died in Rome (or en route) but he was not born there.
Clear as mud ?
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