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Originally posted by Amanda5
reply to post by HomerinNC
All I know is that there are conventions where science fiction fans dress up and live out their favourite characters and an entire consumer market for all types of goods. I have seen people I know pull out their dolls - still in the packet. I recall a doll and the complete language guide to a character of Star Trek - everyone in the room laughed out loud when we explored the language.
These same people are then not interested in the concept of Intergalactic Visitors and Craft being real - in any way! Just look at The Big Bang (the television series) and the main male characters are all scientists - all highly educated scientists at that - but - is there ever mention of the reality of sentient lifeforms elsewhere. No - the show centres on the personalities of the characters and their love lives/non existent love lives/quest to find love. The show is a success but if we took a poll of all the viewers - it would probably amount to nothing more than entertainment. I am speculating not making a definite opinion.
So this thread started as an experiment and people wandered straight in and announced their observations beautifully - but - what I want to know now - is - how many of those people see their observations as merely entertainment and how many actually think deeply about their world and the Universe that extends beyond whatever room the television is plugged in.
I know that people are intelligent but how many actually think about the depictions that are beamed at them via the television. I love human nature and behaviours and thinking as it never ceases to amaze me and to stimulate my intellect. Anyone care to comment!?
Thanks everyone so far. I knew there would be a result. You guessed it I am not a devoted science fiction fan but have watched a fair amount of Star Trek and the odd episode of Babylon 5. I have watched Close Encounters of The Third Kind and other movies.
What I want to know now is why is it so hard for people to believe that the depictions of Grey Aliens could actually be real. I use the word depictions as opposed to photographs because entertainment science fiction is supposed to be just that - fiction!
How is it thousands upon thousands upon thousands of science fiction devotees can immerse themselves totally in the entertainment genre but not accept the real actual evidence that we have been visited by sentient beings that do not look like us and live elsewhere?
I have known people who are science fiction fans to the nth degree but bring up the conversation that it is all the work of talented artists and not an iota based on fact - and they switch off. As a person who has had a lifelong fascination with human behaviour I find this particular mindset remarkable. Anyone care to comment?!
Originally posted by JiggyPotamus
Anyway, from what I understand, the depiction of the "grey" type of alien everyone is familiar with first appeared in reports from individuals.
The science fiction writer H. G. Wells, in the article "Man of the Year Million" in 1893, describes humanity transformed into a race of grey-skinned beings, stunted and with big heads. In his 1901 book The First Men in the Moon, Selenites, or natives of the Moon, are described as having grey skin, big heads, large black eyes and wasp stings. He also briefly describes aliens resembling Greys brought down to Earth as food by the antagonists of his more popular novel The War of the Worlds.
In 1933, the Swedish novelist Gustav Sandgren, using the pen name Gabriel Linde, published a science fiction novel called Den okända faran (The Unknown Danger), where he describes a race of extraterrestrials: "[...] the creatures did not resemble any race of humans. They were short, shorter than the average Japanese, and their heads were big and bald, with strong, square foreheads, and very small noses and mouths, and weak chins. What was most extraordinary about them were the eyes – large, dark, gleaming, with a sharp gaze. They wore clothes made of soft grey fabric, and their limbs seemed to be similar to those of humans." The novel was aimed at young readers, and it included illustrations of the aliens.
In 1965, newspaper reports of the Betty and Barney Hill abduction brought Greys to international attention. The alleged abductees, Betty and Barney Hill, claimed to have been abducted by alien beings and taken to a saucer-shaped spaceship in 1961. The term "Greys" did not come into usage until many years later, but the alleged beings described by Betty and Barney Hill generally fit many of the common traits of the so-called Greys. From a star chart reported by Betty Hill, Marjorie Fish, an elementary school teacher and amateur astronomer, concluded that the home planet of these beings was located in the Zeta Reticuli star system (allegedly the fourth planet of one of the stars of the Zeta Reticuli binary system). The Greys are therefore sometimes known as Zeta Reticulans.
Originally posted by Druscilla
reply to post by Amanda5
I guess you never watched the Stargate series:
Actually, I'm guessing you have not really watched much sci-fi at all.
Depictions of Greys, and grey-like aliens are all over science fiction.
Independence Day aliens had a resemblance going back to the grey archetype.
Babylon 5 had at least one episode with a snippet of a human attempting to sue a grey alien in court for damages and ridicule accrued by the abduction of a great great grandfather.
They're all over science fiction media either outright, or as an archetype base for something very similar but not quite.
Close Encounters of the Third kind from the 1970s?
Come on! Have you watched ANY science fiction?
edit on 16-2-2013 by Druscilla because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Amanda5
This thread is about an observation I have noted. Star Trek and Star Wars and all manner of science fiction enterainment depict sentient life forms as sometimes almost human like or with variances to the human form or even blob like forms, such as is depicted on The Simpsons. The Simpsons depict aliens as speaking blobs who constantly drool and travel in a personal glass covered dome, within a spacecraft. I suppose Et comes close but he was depicted as very height challenged and even the smallest Grey Aliens are purported to be three to four feet tall with clearly discernible legs - ET from memory shuffled along with hardly any recognisable legs!
My point or rather my observation is that I have never seen a character on a science fiction movie or television show that looks like a Grey Alien. Is it just me or have my eyes not viewed very much science fiction? Has anyone else noted that the Grey Alien so often depicted within the media, mainstream and alternative is never depicted in science fiction entertainment.
I randomly selected two images from the internet as depictions of the Grey Aliens that are utilised within the media but - seemingly - not science fiction entertainment. Maybe I have missed out on viewing science fiction entertainment that includes depictions of Grey Aliens so maybe members would like to comment on my observation and agree with me, disagree with me or just comment.
The chances of finding ET life is astronomical. The chances those same ET look exactly as we believe them to be would be next to impossible.