Homeowners fend off bailiffs, aided by POLICE! WOW

Originally posted by starfoxxx
If I was this guy and they came for the home, i'd let them have it.. But not before every valuable item had been taken out, water heaters, ceiling fans, sinks, tubs, i'd get the electrical wire for the copper, toilets, air conditioner, copper pipping, and then when I was done and leaving I'd take the door knobs and deadbolts.

Then you would be charged with criminal damage. yes, even though it was/is your home.

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
reply to post by Wifibrains

 

Wonderful.

Another person in debt looking to shirk his responsibilities.

More in a response to this video in this post in another thread.

Why is financial irresponsibility being applauded?

Well, the banksters were! and received huge amounts of tax payers cash.

reply to post by MastaShake


yea the bailffs do that too - they clamp your car and put the charges up and then tow it away etc ..
all for a £25.00 parking ticket. The police have just outsourced to the parking meter people [ councils] and the bailiffs.

It is a scam - you used to be able to park all over London, but when the councils were put in charge of parking they used it as a revenue raiser and made virtually everywhere no parking.

They are like the mafia, minus the blood.

reply to post by Julie Washington


I see your point, but...

People should have been wiser. I'm sorry but if I make 50k a year and I get approved for a 350k house with an ARM -- I'd be stupid to take it. I don't care what the mortgage lender is telling me.

It's not the mortgage industries job to educate you on how to buy a home. They simply are selling a product/service. It is up to the individual buyer to make a sound, logical judgement call as to whether or not they can afford the home.

Do you blame the salesman at Best Buy that oversells a TV to someone who should know they can't afford it? No, you call the customer an idiot for thinking he could afford that 65" 3-D TV.

The same logic applies.

reply to post by SkepticOverlord

Wonderful.

Another person in debt looking to shirk his responsibilities.

More in a response to this video in this post in another thread.

Why is financial irresponsibility being applauded?

It doesn't matter... they didn't have the lawful authority to remove him from the property, or to trespass.

If you watch the video, you can clearly see that the form for lawful eviction was never SIGNED by the proper... er... Magistrate?

Judge?

The problem was, that they DIDN'T have a warrant... the use of FORCE to remove the person from the house was not lawfully approved.

They will probably attempt to GET a proper warrant, so as to comply with the law, but as it stood in that particular time, they lacked the proper legal backing for their action, and technically, they WERE trespassing.

The police recognized that the bailiff lacked the proper documentation to forcefully evict the person, and thus, advised the bailiff that until they HAD the proper documentation, that they should just leave.

The reason for this, is that the BANK does not have legal authority to use FORCE on ANYONE.... and this is a VERY IMPORTANT thing....

The POLICE under proper lawful procedure have the authority to remove people from the house... but NOT the bank.


If the BANK had been lawful in their attempt to remove the person from their home, they WOULD have a signed warrant, and a police escort.

Because that is what DUE PROCESS means.



By the way, OP, great thread... starred and flagged.

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
reply to post by Wifibrains

 

Wonderful.

Another person in debt looking to shirk his responsibilities.

More in a response to this video in this post in another thread.

Why is financial irresponsibility being applauded?

Probably because not everyone has a huge website with loads of adverts and makes a decent living like you.

Like most people in this world this guy was pretty poor and in financial dire straits, and facing eviction from his home, and he used the law that was set up to protect him.

Well ATS for me that is the true face of evil!!!

I would have taken that fag off that baldy wee homunculus specimen and stuck it in his eye. Well done to the young dude for showing restraint!

Consider this, we know what they two bailiffs and that other supposed lock-smith look like, we even know there names and i think one of the muppets gave his DOB. He must have been the brains of the operation! LoL

Looks like a small rural village. They cant be that hard to find or that far away!

Time for some good old vigilantism!

Track them down and do nasty things to them!

I will simply add Its amazing the damage you can do with a little or a lot of superglue!

HINT HINT!

Originally posted by pikestaff

Originally posted by starfoxxx
If I was this guy and they came for the home, i'd let them have it.. But not before every valuable item had been taken out, water heaters, ceiling fans, sinks, tubs, i'd get the electrical wire for the copper, toilets, air conditioner, copper pipping, and then when I was done and leaving I'd take the door knobs and deadbolts.

Then you would be charged with criminal damage. yes, even though it was/is your home.

Squatters and burglars have been doing this to unoccupied homes since the mortgage crisis began..... I wouldn't be charged with squat.

The beneficiary of the estate has done nothing wrong and he was always standing " on law " .

The warrant was obviously not sufficient for repossession .

The bailiffs would of had not difficulty in enforcing the lawfull & legal repossession order .

I think the bailiffs are not above the LAW .

If I was on jury of 12 and if these two bailiffs were on trial for threats , intimidation , tresspass ; I know what my vote would be : Guilty on all counts .

Unlawfull and illegal acts of these two bailiffs are inexcusable .

As for the RBS mortgage case , the beneficiary states that " the matter is currently dealt within the Courts " .

That means the account holder probably has asked bank for the original mortgage note or perhaps he asked for the verification of the alleged debt .

When one party of a given contract is claiming dispute , the other party may not proceed further without establishing " facts " before the court .

The bailiffs didn't even have the legal warrant , they were on a pirate duty i.e plundering , looting and stealing .

Actually this happened in the u.s. the woman was 103 yrs old. Cops & movers refused to evict her....
abcnews.go.com...

Originally posted by Wifibrains
reply to post by 23432

 

Briggs as in the great train robbery? Or someone else?

I kind of see what happened in this vid as a win, maybe not the war, but that battle was a win, and another step in the right direction. Now people know how to nullify the bailiff, they can look more closely at the high court rulings that eventually over ruled the owners and the law. The awnser will proberly lie with human rights in the high court, and hopefully will win out over any corporation.

I thought I heard that Briggs family was named on the court papers but I might be mistaken .


If enough people knew about their rights under common law and also knew how to interact with maritime admiralty pirates , well , wouldn't that be a swell world to live in ?

"Real Time Law & Instant Justice" years are ahead of us all .
Subsequently we need to re-learn the laws which we half heartedly attempt to govern ourselves with .

I would love to see the " Consideration " that the bank brought on the contract negotiation table in this and any other case .

monetising present participle of mon·e·tize (Verb)
Verb
Convert into or express in the form of currency.
Adapt (a society) to the use of money.

Quite frankly, government is hired employee, managers of the joint assets and estate of the people, including the real estate/land, that belongs to their great great great great great great great great great great great....add to infinity....grandchildren. They are not hired as real estate agents and no one should be without a farm of their own. Whole world fits shoulder to shoulder in LA and would easily have a farm in Canada, so......!!!!!!

Banks will find a way to get what they want, even if it takes force. I am a firm believer in paying your debts, but some of the big banks have the courts in their back pocket and fighting both with a lawyer costs serious money. Always take the time to read the fine print and have a lawyer look over anything you don't understand. I ran into an unbelievable catch when we bought our house. In the fine print, it said that even after the loan was paid we had to go through the bank if we ever sold it, giving them the right to refinance the same house to a different person. I had already laid a check for the down payment on the table when I read that. I ask the loan officer if that was what it meant. She said yes, that's basically what it says. Without saying another word, I picked up the check, got my coat and we started to walk out. [thought the real estate agent was going to have a seizure] To make a long story short [ too late ] we got that excluded in the new contract. Seems they had a change of heart when that check was going out the door. Imagine that

reply to post by MystikMushroom

People should have been wiser. I'm sorry but if I make 50k a year and I get approved for a 350k house with an ARM -- I'd be stupid to take it. I don't care what the mortgage lender is telling me.

It's not the mortgage industries job to educate you on how to buy a home. They simply are selling a product/service. It is up to the individual buyer to make a sound, logical judgement call as to whether or not they can afford the home.

Yes, but it is the mortgage industries job to not loan to people who can't afford to pay. Any mortgage company that would lend 350k to someone making 50k a year has to know that person can't possibly pay that loan. No?

reply to post by Wifibrains


i had to deal with this many times...


Those bailiffs evict people without a relevant courtorder

and not signing that document was `an attempt to cease the property...unoffically

that fat guy in the shorts....people like him are whats broken in britian

double agents, that get insider knowledge from their day job...highjacking eviction orders, before they are processed....



GOD BLESS THE REAL BRITISH....THE OTHER GYPSYS THAT DESTROY THIS COUNTRY, CAN STAY STATELESS...GO WONDER THE SEAS.....PIRATES

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
reply to post by Wifibrains

 

Wonderful.

Another person in debt looking to shirk his responsibilities.
Why is financial irresponsibility being applauded?

erm...we bailed out the banks
now we are in debt
the bank now also wants my house....

who makes the rules?


also, how can the financial industry...need finance???????????????

we are humans, the alpha and the omega
if the system is taking peoples homes...then the system is broken
we need to find a new way to regulate ourselves

BTW....they are here to serve us...not the other way round

also...its a known problem that here in the UK...renegade bailiffs encroach on all dead peoples property, challanging the estate and who owns it, and the beneficiary
they fill their pockets and run.....iv seen it with my dead uncle

reply to post by Wifibrains


Best thing I've seen all day !

reply to post by Wifibrains


If this had been in the USA the man on the property would have been arrested for not obeying an officer. (he was told once to be quite). BUT, also the other men for the banks would have been arrested for that and for trying to do and illegal act of trespass,trying to forcable taking property without correct paper work and all signed. But, thank god the police in our town doesn't use that unless your just plain not being uncival. Here the reprosessors always brings the police,sheriffs deputy,or the constable of that beat with them. So if you refuse to leave the police move you out legally with proper papers. But, as the police man said go to a lawyer with the papers before they are signed for repoession and get there advice on it beginning legal or not.

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
reply to post by Wifibrains

 

Wonderful.

Another person in debt looking to shirk his responsibilities.

More in a response to this video in this post in another thread.

Why is financial irresponsibility being applauded?

Good question about why financial responsibility is being applauded! The Federal Reserve has a running track record for outright destroying the dollars value over the last 99 years (100 years this Dec 22.)

What about the robosigning issue? How about the LIBOR rate? And why is Corzine not in jail, along with Geithner and Bernanke and all the other financial "expert" leaders? Do you think they are "responsible" people doing their job to the best of their ability?

In the case of this thread, I applaud the guy, not for trying to avoid his financial obligations, but for using the system against the system and not losing his cool. Bankers avoid jail and even get bailouts from the government all the time, I don't see them getting their banks repossessed..