Up To 12 Million Bees Found Dead In Florida And No One Knows Why, page 1

Hi all

Saw this article yesterday and it worries me and makes me sad.. We need the bees, we cannot live without them.

It seems they are blaming pesticides for this.

Authorities have already ruled out disease, including the infamous “Colony Collapse Disorder” (CCD), as the cause of a recent honeybee holocaust that took place in Brevard County, Florida. The UK’s Daily Mail reports that up to 12 million bees from roughly 800 apiaries in the area all dropped dead at roughly the same time around September 26 — and local beekeepers say pesticides are likely to blame.

And surprisingly enough the officialdom denies that the pesticide spraying was what caused the mass die off..

The Florida die-off coincides with a recent county-wide mosquito eradication effort, during which helicopters flew over various parts of the county and sprayed airborne pesticides. Officials, of course, deny that this taxpayer-funded spraying initiative had anything to do with the bee genocide, though. “The fact that it was so widespread and so rapid, I think you can pretty much rule out disease,” said Bill Kern, an entomologist from the University of Florida (UF) to Florida Today.

“It happened essentially almost in one day. Usually diseases affect adults or the brood, you don’t have something that kills them both.” Many of the beekeepers who lost their hives in the mass killing raised their bees to sell to American farmers, who then used them to pollinate food crops. Because of their massive losses, many of these beekeepers could end up losing their entire beekeeping businesses.

Also its not just the bees that the pesticide spraying has affected.. The beekeepers have lost money, business and friends because of this..

“I’m a pretty tough guy, but it is heart wrenching,” said Charles Smith of Smith Family Honey Company to News 13 in Orlando.

worldtruth.tv...

Why do they insist on pesticides, that are not only full of chemicals that goes into the food that we then eat, but also kill off one of the most important insects on our planet, that we rely so heavily on...?? They know we need the damn bees...!! Grrrr it makes me cross..!

end rant...

peace fluffx

reply to post by theghoster

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I have suspicions that it isn't just the pesticides.. What if there is a frequency being emitted that is killing the bees off..? Or as you say mesmerising them and later they die..?

Who knows... I'm no bee expert, but having sat and watched bees buzzing about doing their bee stuff, they dont usually hover in the same spot.. Bees are always on a mission.. They dont have time to stop.
How very strange.

I cant say i have seen anything like that over here, but i live on an island off the west coast of Scotland and we dont have a huge amount of bees here.. However i shall keep a lookout over spring and summer to see if there are any differences in their behaviour etc..

reply to post by Casualboy100

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If they go extinct... we die. Simple. We need bees, the plants need bees. They are fascinating creatures and their incredible work-rate is responsible for the majority of the world’s pollination.

Many experts have predicted that without bees, the human race would be extinct in four years...

So yes, we need to help them... Get planting peeps..!

Bayer company makes the poison that's killing them.

i'll go find you a link

link

Originally posted by fluff007
reply to post by Casualboy100

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They are fascinating creatures and their incredible work-rate is responsible for the majority of the world’s pollination.

Not to mention that they serve as role models for the incredibly lazy race of allegedly intelligent creatures known as 'homo sapiens'!

I have a question here. Dying flowers are a result of dying bees, not the other way around. Since our bees are dying anyway, would planting flowers really ease the problem? Besides, it's not because we're lacking flowers that we're losing bees (if I remember correctly), but because we're polluting the environment with agrochemicals, mining wastes and suchlike and making life a living h-e-double-hockey-sticks for our animal neighbours.

www.youtube.com...

This documentary is underrated.

This is a massive possibility..

Research Monsanto...

Monsanto Blamed For Bee Population Collapse, So It Buys Bee Research Firm

Originally posted by fluff007
reply to post by Casualboy100

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If they go extinct... we die. Simple. We need bees, the plants need bees. They are fascinating creatures and their incredible work-rate is responsible for the majority of the world’s pollination.

Many experts have predicted that without bees, the human race would be extinct in four years...

So yes, we need to help them... Get planting peeps..!

Eskimos live just fine without bees.

I'm not understanding why you say we will die if they go extinct.

reply to post by Hopechest

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Hopechest, may i suggest that you read the details in the link below, i haven't had much time to get into scientific works on this subject as the Château St George is taking effect... but you can Google and will find :

entomologyfreaks.tribe.net...

Kindest respects

Rodinus

This isn't a bad link either which also leads you onto other interesting links on this subject !

bee-exstinction.wikispaces.com...

Kindest respects

Rodinus

reply to post by Rodinus

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The only science in your link is a random quote by Albert Einstein. I'm not saying your wrong but I just am not seeing how the extinction of bees would wipe out humans.

You know that bees are not indigenous to America don't you? Many plants have flowers that require an insect for pollination. And many different insects can do the job. Keep in mind that there were no honeybees in America until Europeans brought them over. So, prior to the 17th century, all the pollination in America was done by indigenous species like bumble bees, wasps, flies, butterflies, etc.

Not sure why other insects won't pick up the task when the bees go away since they have before.

Originally posted by Hopechest
reply to post by Rodinus

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The only science in your link is a random quote by Albert Einstein. I'm not saying your wrong but I just am not seeing how the extinction of bees would wipe out humans.

You know that bees are not indigenous to America don't you? Many plants have flowers that require an insect for pollination. And many different insects can do the job. Keep in mind that there were no honeybees in America until Europeans brought them over. So, prior to the 17th century, all the pollination in America was done by indigenous species like bumble bees, wasps, flies, butterflies, etc.

Not sure why other insects won't pick up the task when the bees go away since they have before.

Hi Hope,

I think you were answering whilst i was typing out my post that followed, so maybe you can check out some of the links that are inside the other post.

Of course i know that Bees are not indegenous to the USA (personally i am not American and live in Europe), BUT, if i understand correctly i think that you will find that other types of pollenisating insects are also being affected due to crop spraying of extremely harmful molecules in a major way...

I live slap bang in the middle of the country side with beautiful corn, rape seed and sometimes sunflower crops all around my house. A couple of years ago i spoke with my neighbour who owns these fields and commented on how the insect population was getting lower and lower (Not just bees)... It turned out he was using a pesticide containing certain molecules that had a devastating effect on pollenisating insects (including Bees) the main product was called Cruiser OSR but other products made by a certain company beginning with M were also being used.

2 years later i noticed that the insect population in my garden (i have about 20 acres) was becoming more and more lively with pollenisating insects, Bees, Butterflies etc etc...

So, i decided to invite my farmer neighbour around for a drink and guess what? he told me that he had stopped using these products for over a year and had decided to use a product which was much more environment friendly...

So getting back to your comment, heres my question to you Hope, what what happen if plants were no longer able to reproduce because of pollenisating insects becoming extinct (including Bees who are the main laborers)?... NO more plants... so what happens after there are no more plants.... think it's quite easy to see what would happen no?

Heres the link again if you want to have a look : bee-exstinction.wikispaces.com...

Right, back to my last glass of Château St Georges 1966.

Kindest repects

Rodinus

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