Originally posted by MajorKarma
I'd say something but, you've used up all he words.

Hold it, just realized there were a few words you missed; How about Marxist, Socialist, Luciferian and Nationalist Socialist Party....because bud, what you have written here is right out of Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler.

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I hardly used up ALL the words! but I do know that I'm testing the patience of community!

I'm not too familiar to the writings in Mein Kampf, I know what I'm describing is similar to communism, only in the fact that my ideas are similar to the theirs of sharing all resources, technologies and discoveries. However, the ideas do differ in some key ways, they do not call for a complete abolishment of currency, nor do they believe that knowledge needs to be open and accessible to all.

however, if our government truly is actively working in league with corporations, banks, the nwo or whoever you want to place at the top of this pyramid, to ensure the populace stays under their control, wouldn't they put a strong stigma against these ideas, oh wait they did. And if that's the case, wouldn't it worth being suspicious of? I mean it wasn't long ago, and probably still hold true today, that to call some one a communist is similar to calling them a traitor, is really being a traitor to your nation, a nation that says the people have the right to their beliefs, to believe in a system that is fair for all? most people don't even know why being called a communist is an insult, but they sure know that it is

if that is the case, then I need to question the stigma of hitler as well, by no means assume that I'm saying i'm a supporter, i'm just saying that if he had similar ideas, and our leaders don't want us sharing those ideas, it is not above them to lie about his atrocities during war, do i think he was evil, going by the light history has painted, of course i do. but if i recall correctly it was the U.S that dropped the big bombs, how come those crimes aren't seen in such a similar light?

Originally posted by Plotus
Mr. McGill...... what you say is very likely the hopes and aspirations of the many, but those not well spoken.

I can't help but notice the immediate attack on your Thread, the spelling, the placement of a coma, the spacing of paragraphs, anything and everything but something of substance. Anything that might discredit.
You have articulated well, and upon the primary issues that are the cause of the our great nations slip into the abyss. Designed by the hierarchy to create division, and is one of the great tactics used by despots is to divide and conquer.
On a speculative note, or more accurately something to be related to our recent Mayan prophecy, or in that context, was the thought of a "New Awakening'. Your Thread appeared to propose a path consistent with that path. After all, a New Awakening won't come off of Ebay or Amazon for only $12.95 in paperback or $19.95 in hardbound. It won't just drop in the peoples lap. It will come from Visionaries. It will fill the void and bring hope, and not the Illusion of 'hope' brandied about by talking heads and politicians.

It will come from the hearts of people willing to look for seek and embrace change.
I think you have opened a door to the possibility of change, a door opened to shedding past indoctrinations and traditions, a door filled with the possibility of a far better world and a mindset. I for one subscribe to your visions of change, and possibilities. I have lived in a time when freedoms in America were still intact, and I have watched the slow erosion generation after generation, with no real champion for change. One thing I have never abandoned is GOD, nor has He abandoned Me.

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thank you so much for your words and encouragement! I can say the same about God, I'm not religious in the sense of most, but I am spiritual, I feel forces do watch, guide and protect. However, they do not perpetrate change, just give the courage to take the step in change.

thank you again

Originally posted by Dutcheagle
Great thread it really was my time worth reading and it made me aware( for the parts i wasnt aware of) so thank you for that.Although everything is well explained i doubt enough people will actually do something with it
even though i hope so.S&F and saved on my comp

thank you, maybe responses like this would get the people who just skimmed it to give it a full read, that'll be a good start for me

There's no need for an "armed" revolution. We can successfully revolt without firing a single shot. If we all stock up a 6 month supply of necessities such as food, meds, cigs, fuel, diapers, etc., and spend every last one of our pennies to help the less fortunate do the same...

Then we can simply pick a date (June 1st sounds good to me) and just stop. Instead of going to work and shopping in the stores, we'll have a week long super party to celebrate the realization of our power and the system we are about to put in place.

Even if only a few million of us participate here in the states, the energy taken out of the system would be enough to bring the whole thing to a grinding halt within a couple of weeks.

What we are lacking is a well laid out plan on how this system would work and how to implement it. Of course the transition is going to be the hardest part, but the generation to take this step will go down in history as the greatest of all.

There is a myth that civilization allowed us to have more leisure time. In fact the opposite is true. Pre Roman European tribes used like 25 percent of their time for a hunter gatherer existence and as a result had a lot of leisure time. When the Romans introduced "civilization" working became much harder as a large percentage went to taxes and tribute to the nobles and the state, and leisure time went down to below 20 percent. Because civilization breaks our connection with free access to the Earth and its resources, which is our BIRTHRIGHT which has been stolen from us. Think about it, if you lived in a "tribe" with access to water, and land which you could either hunt fish or farm yourself, suddenly there is no need for money, and bartering can easily take its place. You hit the nail on the head,we do NOT live in a classless society, we are basically living in a system of institutionalized self perpetuating free range slavery, which has been in existence for centuries, and is so well hidden that most people don't realize it. Its not so much a conspiracy as a system that allows the present structure of society to exist as it does.Will it change in our lifetimes? I doubt it. There are now far too many people on Earth for us to go back to living off the land. All the land is "owned" by a few individuals.The only things I can see to put some cracks in the walls of system as it stands is: 1. affordable solar power that would allow someone to completely power their house without needs for external energy sources, 2. Development of some sort of miniaturized food production technology modular gardening and aquaculture, possibly some form of communal food production, that people could use to become at least semi self reliant and to reduce dependance on factory food production. There should be an imperative for free education from kindergarten through college, to give EVERYONE , not just the children of the privileged, a chance to compete for good employment.The idea of community needs to be rediscovered promoted and embraced, as well as the concept of working for the common good in the place you live. Mass transit needs to be developed so it can REPLACE the automobile in large part, in effect eliminating dependence on fossil fuels and a huge reduction in expenses for people who currently depend on cars for all their transportation. In addition our society tends to isolate people from one another simply by the way it is structured, neighbors in many places don't even know each other.Keeping us divided and isolated from each other keeps us less empowered. This is an unnatural state for human beings.In addition, people will have to educate themselves and their children on how to save money and as much as possible to recognize and not fall into debt slavery when possible. If instead of using credit cards, people could start to create cash flow from savings for themselves instead of depending on credit and loans, that could start a very powerful trend and the cumulative effect of millions of people doing this cannot be underestimated. If we could do just these things it would start to lessen our dependence on the system in place. The only other way there might be a change is a societal collapse, and I think for several decades it would be the Mad Max scenario. I think the only way things are going to change is from the bottom up. We have to as individuals and communities, remake the societal DNA of our society so it serves us all instead of a ruling cabal. That's not communism, that's democracy. if change starts locally, and that catches on all over the place, maybe we can live in a better world eventually. Until then our chains remain. Its going to take a long time but I think it will happen and it seems to be already underway to an extent. Thank God, people are starting to wake up.