Meteorite Crashes in Russia

If anything this event shows how truly inadequate our tracking systems are. So much concern over the large civilization ending ones but smaller ones can still cause catastrophic events. Imagine if it hadn't broke up and impacted the nuclear station up there(I think reports said 70 miles away).

The night sky/universe is huge, and most of the incoming rocks are found probably not found due to size/speed, or nobody looking at that spot in the sky. Conspiracies aside, it should be a wake up call to invest a bit more money in this field. Could create thousands of jobs from data entry all the way up to PhD level positions.

Just my two cents worth.

reply to post by theabsolutetruth


The asteroid split into 2 pieces.
The show is over. It looks like sonic booms can cause damage if you are
directly below them.

Look at the size of the debris clouds they are huge?! How big was this thing?!! And the impact sound? Not the usual 'sand grain speck' eh??!

reply to post by theabsolutetruth


It is two smoke trails given off one piece of asteroid that is in the process of breaking up.

I feel like giving up. Clearly rational thought has gone out of the window and it is simply either "Them" or "TPTB" or "Aliens" attacking us.................

Sometimes it feels more and more like GLP here....

Oh and those meteors may be a precursor for what's to come but better not.

The very interesting aria to watch will be off coast Japan somewhere between Sea of Ohotsk ,Bering sea and coastal area of Japan. and North Pacific Ocean.

Well but that is just a guess..

ive sat and read the whole thread
and i got to say its a very interesting event that has happened on the 15th of February 2013
this has been one of those 'only once in a lifetime' events.
my thoughts are with all the injured and to those with no windows in -6 temps.
but im sure they will have plenty of vodka to keep them warm.
i personally dont believe DA-14 has anything to do with this meteor in Russia
i know i know coincidences and all that
but for once i think this realy is just a coincidence.

thank you to all that have posted the videos
the sonic booms are purely epic!!!
im hoping the majority of the injured (950+) are related to ear drum bursts.

Originally posted by Deaf Alien
ok how big is our atmosphere do you think?

few miles?

how fast a metroid go thru?

You get it?

Now how does it form two trails of clouds?

Deaf Alien, i like you
but posting under the influence can be a bad idea at times
firstly, the meteor was travelling at ?? the figure escapes me at the moment, but anyways its motoring
so it hits our atmosphere at immense speed and begins to break up and burn
so what we are seeing in the trail is the meteor breaking into 2 main pieces with lots of smaller pieces
the 2 bigger pieces seperate from each other, leaving a gap between each piece, hence the 2 main trails
and as they burn out next to each other they shrink into a smaller trail
i hope that explains it

reply to post by tnhiker


Don't worry DA14 will be thousands of miles away.
When it passes then we can start trembling over some other asteroid that will miss.

The latest update from a Russian news website: 950 injured, 524 used medial help, 46 hospitalized, two in reanimation. These numbers come from federal authorities and seem to be downplayed as the regional sources say 758 people asked for medial help.

Three crash sites found, the one in the lake to be investigated by Ural Federal University specialists tomorrow.

All in all 6 cities suffered. In Chelyabinsk the damage seems to be the heaviest with the Zink factory, ice palace, 3 000 commieblocks and office buildings, 34 hospitals, 300 schools and kindergardens damaged by the impact. Over 100 000 square metres of glass surfaces were damaged. The damage estimated is worth about 37 million U.S. dollars.

lenta.ru...
lenta.ru...

And here is a video from the lake crash site: echo.msk.ru...

reply to post by tnhiker


Which is why more satellites are going up over the next few years to spot things like this. I agree though. It is all very well knowing we will get advanced warning of ELE's but i think that is probably scant consolation to those affected by this tiddler!

reply to post by winofiend


Reports were it tore apart part of a zinc factory.



early on Friday sending fireballs crashing down on the town of Chelyabinsk. Damage from the meteor shower was clear to see. This zinc factory suffered partial collapse. And many other buildings were damaged. Residents report seeing burning objects in the sky as the meteor raced across the horizon, leaving a trail of white smoke which could be seen 200 kilometres away.
www.ajc.com...

reply to post by Flavian


Read the post properly.

I said they look too UNIFORM.

According to the laws of Physics even if it were two rocks they wouldn't have EXACTLY the same smoke trails in such a manner nor would the crater look so perfectly uniform.

Maybe you should give up if you are just offering criticism without actually looking at the posts in the right context.

Originally posted by sulaw
I'm not a DoomSayer but this morning on the news. WGN stated that scientist may have mis-calculated the da-14 and are revisiting the equation they used to determine if contact would be made with Earth. I hope they did there math right the first time.

As I feel what came down in Russia was some of the debris around the Meteor that was propelled from the force and speed of DA-14 coming around are bend of the galaxy.

I'm not a scientist i'm just thinking out loud~

Why do mortal humans revere mortal scientists as some sort of mathematicians, magicians or Messiahs when it comes to space science? They can't even predict the weather accurately. So how the heck are they going to predict an incoming asteroid/meteor?

So to recap; they've been vigilantly watching the skies for this in-coming asteroid the past few months (one year to be exact) but YET...missed this/these meteor(s)?


As a side-note: They're also paid to keep quiet especially if what they have to say MAY cause panic. Ask any former astronaut who is willing to speak on the matter.

Originally posted by Human_Alien


My friend, you're assuming all agencies on this planet are privy of knowing all of NASA's capabilities.

I'm not saying it's NASA per se but I am suggesting this might have been the result of some man-made intervention of sorts. I do believe NASA (or their alter ego agency) is the most powerful military-like organization on this planet though.

Bottom line, I just don't see this as a natural occurrence. Not with this asteroid due to fly by tonight.

So your suggesting NASA was shooting at THIS meteor or DA14?

Originally posted by Senduko
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

He did, he did

And I was being sarcastic =p.

That's what I thought or at least hoped Just wanted others to follow the intent of our thoughts with certainty.
Thanks for clearing that up

reply to post by TauCetixeta


I'm probably over simplifying this but a 50 mph car can hit a 100 mph car. So why couldn't a slower missile hit a faster meteorite? They just need to do some fast calculations.

reply to post by TauCetixeta


Even if it went into two rocks the chances of them behaving having exactly the same level of burn up and trajectory in the way the picture shows are very UNLIKELY.

Look at the picture, look at how the two streams are IDENTICAL. Have you ever thrown two rocks that behaved identically?

Looks suspicious, answers on a postcard or keep your blindfold on.

www.youtube.com...

Came across this while watching uploaded videos of the meteor. 20 seconds in, any thoughts?

Originally posted by Flavian
reply to post by theabsolutetruth

 

It is two smoke trails given off one piece of asteroid that is in the process of breaking up.

I feel like giving up. Clearly rational thought has gone out of the window and it is simply either "Them" or "TPTB" or "Aliens" attacking us.................

Sometimes it feels more and more like GLP here....

edit on 15-2-2013 by Flavian because: (no reason given)

Isn't it funny how the thread has taken a different bent now that it's entered into a different time zone.

I might have to look into that more at a later date. Usually the time when this thread started, no one has any interest in the usual postings.. this grabbed attention. and the varying logics applied over time are quite obvious.

It's also interesting to note that the late late news here has now picked up a little more of the story rather than the off the cuff snippets they had before. Like the puppy dogs have hear the big dog yapping.

that's not a pleasant thing to realise, either

Originally posted by starfoxxx

Originally posted by Human_Alien


My friend, you're assuming all agencies on this planet are privy of knowing all of NASA's capabilities.

I'm not saying it's NASA per se but I am suggesting this might have been the result of some man-made intervention of sorts. I do believe NASA (or their alter ego agency) is the most powerful military-like organization on this planet though.

Bottom line, I just don't see this as a natural occurrence. Not with this asteroid due to fly by tonight.

So your suggesting NASA was shooting at THIS meteor or DA14?

Yup Why not? Too Star-Warish?
We're living in times where fact is obviously and apparently stranger than fiction.

NASA's Asteroid Defense Plan

So a nuclear bomb would be essentially useless at disintegrating an asteroid several miles wide, but scientists at NASA think that a nuclear weapon could be used in a different way to defend the planet.

science.howstuffworks.com...