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Originally posted by AnonLover
With all religious stuff aside, its not illogical to think that homo sapien is the only one that evolved this far. (Current Space Tech) I mean... as far as complex life, we could be the only ones. What if?
from Eco-Doom or Redemption: The Mad Movement and the Sixties' Counter-Culture Project
My recently published book The Spiritual Gift of Madness: The Failure of Psychiatry and the Rise of the Mad Pride Movement is based upon an unusual proposition, which is at the heart of the conviction that inspires the book: Many of those persons who have been labeled "mentally ill" by the psychiatric system -- whom I prefer to call mad persons -- have had spiritual experiences or visions, often messianic, and thus they have an important contribution to make to the redemption of humanity, to the redemption of the earth. Or to put it in other words, many of them could be the prophets or midwives of the new age, the messianic age. I cannot help but recall the often repeated words of the first mad person I ever met (this was during my college years, decades ago): "I am the mother of the new messianic age."
Messianism originated in the Western world with Judaism. Martin Buber, generally considered the greatest Jewish philosopher of the 20th century, believed messianism was Judaism's "most profoundly original idea" (Lowy 47-70) The "coming of the Messiah," understood literally by Jewish people for centuries, was for Buber, a non-observant but pious Jew and a socialist, a metaphor for the advent of messianic age, to be brought about by God and man. As Buber saw it messianism was Judaism's gift to humanity
Eugen Rosenstock-Huessey, a Christian philosopher (a Jewish convert) and contemporary of Buber's, described the emergence of the messianic sensibility, "Unlike other tribal or imperial people the Jews broke with the narrative that life and death, peace and war were inevitable cycles. Instead of merely longing for a lost golden age, they staked their entire existence on a future reign of righteousness and peace" (Cristuado 247). The historian of religion Mircea Eliade has noted that human beings from the beginning of history have been haunted by the mythical remembrance of a pre-historical happiness, a golden age -- thus we harbor an abiding nostalgia for paradise. Judaism was the first religion to convert this nostalgia into the belief that this mythical paradise will be realized in history as the Kingdom of God on earth. History is the realm of redemption.
According to messianic thinkers, both Jewish and Christian, our state of conflict with the world, our mortality and suffering is not a permanent human condition but is a result of our historical estrangement from God. The Kingdom of God, the reunion of God and humanity, is the remedy: "For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea" (Isaiah 11:9). Buber emphasized that this was not a matter of gradual progress but something "sudden and immense" (Lowy 52). In Isaiah God says, "I create new heavens and a new earth." The long awaited age of peace and happiness is called the "day without evening" in Eastern Christianity, thus connoting a state of immortality. Even in the Indian Vedas we find evidence of the messianic longing in the symbol of a new beginning also connoting immortality, "the eternal dawn." The messianic age is universally described as the union of heaven and earth.
More than any other religious Jewish thinker, Buber placed the active participation of human beings -- as God's partners -- at the heart of messianism. "God has no wish for any other means of perfecting his creation than by our help. He will not reveal his Kingdom until we have laid its foundations" (Farber 90). In the early 1920s Buber stated, "We are living in an unsaved world, and we are waiting for redemption in which we have been called upon to participate in a most unfathomable way" (Lowy 53). Buber regarded Jesus as a great Jewish prophet but not the messiah -- because we have not been saved. Christians think Jesus will come again to usher in the Kingdom of God, and esoteric Christians like Carl Jung (Pinchbeck 2007) think those in whom the Christ consciousness is born will complete Jesus' work. In any case although Buber's interpretation of Christianity is questionable, some of his comments still ring true -- we are living in an unsaved world, and we are still longing for redemption.
In 1926 Buber wrote that the Jewish people were "the human community" that is the carrier of "the messianic expectation . . . this belief in the still-to-be-accomplished . . . world redemption" (Lowy 53). But today it is not the Jews who hold this expectation. Sadly Jews betrayed their claim to be the messianic people when they substituted the tribalist project of the creation of the Jewish state of Israel for the universal reign of peace and justice (Farber, 2005).
Today it is the mad who are the carriers of the messianic expectation. Not all of them, probably not most of them, but some of them, many of them. I believe that those among the mad who embrace their madness and proudly affirm it, those who cherish their messianic visions and mystical experiences, will be the leaders of the messianic transformation of which humanity has dreamed for centuries. This is why I am advocating a new "third wing," a messianic wing of the Mad Pride movement.
reply to post by NewAgeMan
longing for redemption
“God has given you a spirit with wings on which to soar into the spacious firmament of Love and Freedom. Is it not pitiful than that you cut your own wings with your own hands and suffer your soul to crawl like an insect upon the earth?”
~ Kahlil Gibran, from "The Prophet"
The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life.The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life.
~ Revelation of John, 22:17
Originally posted by tyltyl
As of today, we have a lot of technology that can really make our life better, but money and greed are our worst enemy.
"Life is a Mighty Joke. He who knows this can hardly be understood by others. He who does not know it finds himself in a state of delusion. He may ponder over this problem day and night, but will find himself incapable of knowing it. Why? People take life seriously, and God lightly; whereas we must take God seriously, and take life lightly. Then, we know that we always were the same and will ever remain the same.......the Originator of this joke. This knowledge is not acheived by reasoning.
But it is the knowledge of experience."
~ Meher Baba