After this thread, I really am pulling off this whole topic for awhile, across all the countless threads running about Dorner. However, I have a few
things to say first.
The hypocrisy and hero worship of a twisted, warped killer is sickening here. Lately, it's been outright disgusting to see. First, it was Sandy Hook
and every imaginable way to paint that sick bastard as something other than the killer he was. SOME people even suggest HE was a HERO and was going
there to STOP the shootings...not commit them. If one need ask where the line between healthy paranoia and paranoid delusion lay? That would be a
decent example to point to.
Now we have former LAPD Officer, Christopher Dorner. A Rookie when he was terminated for cause who never reached a high enough level as a Police
Officer to lose the title of Rookie. Yet, he's considered some authority by some in..what? Police Policy? Corruption? Chris Dorner spent the last few
years FIGHTING TO GET HIS JOB BACK......not 'stick it to the man'. Hardly. He was fighting to return to the street as a Cop. Thank God, given his
eventual meltdown, he was 100% unsuccessful. However the notion that this was some fighter for the little guy is patently absurd and ignorant of the
most basic facts of this case. He's no hero. He was a FIRED Ex-Cop who spent his time fighting to return to being a Cop in the Department he ended up
declaring open war on, by his own words
People demand proof... Evidence.....and without it? This was murder?
Well... The same people
demanding proof and yelling 'Innocent until proven guilty!!!" were just dandy about convicting George Zimmerman,
Staff Sgt. Robert Bales and dozens of others the media holds out in one way or another. In those cases? The court of ATS public opinion convened,
heard the media's stories and ruled guilt before anything more needed said....let alone anything in a courtroom. It seems "Innocent until proven
guilty" ONLY matters when the accused is someone the person saying it PERSONALLY believes is innocent. Those deemed guilty by whatever is seen in a
story? Well..... Countless threads show the level of hate and calls right up to their deaths ...ATS has been witness to. It's a regular thing, in
Yet here...a man who had been holding two elderly people against their will as hostages the same afternoon
as he died in a barricade
innocent and woe be anyone
to suggest he may have actually done what he was killed for.
THIS is the level of pure hypocrisy
this story seems to bring out right now...and why I'm walking clear away from any threads dealing with it.
I don't have the temperament for the duality of values here. In one case it's "Off with their head ! ! !" In this one? "Oh..but but
..well..maybe someone ELSE killed those people ..and maybe someone JUST LIKE HIM terrorized that elderly couple or took part in police shootouts".
I will remind some of their "Innocent until proven guilty!!!" nonsense the next time a U.S. Soldier is accused of something in a war zone to the
near blood lust
which has and does
form up here.......so quickly forgetting anything about innocence without proof. Yeah... that's
pretty situational for ethics or values at times.
This fall from evidence based, factual debate where the point was to HUNT FOR the truth of a thing and not simply find facts to FIT AN AGENDA started
in earnest with the CT Shooting and Sandy Hookers who have come to haunt the story like a bad ghost. It's carrying right into the near canonization
of a cop killer based strictly on assumption, wishful thinking and the HOPE that maybe he is something other than the scumbag killer he was.
If ANYTHING aside from assumption and supposition existed....anything at all....to suggest Dorner was anything but a cop killer and major threat to
society, I'd be interested. However, as with CT, facts are entirely secondary and irrelevant. Assumptions and just declarations of things to sound
like fact fill the gap just fine for many, it seems ....and therein lay the fall of intelligent debate.
When Evidence is supplanted by supposition and proof is thrown aside for pure theory? I don't know how much is left to differentiate a debate from a
National Enquirer story. Nothing in a factual sense, to be sure....and that's my whole point.
Now I don't plan to see stars or flags for this. Given my experience on some other threads and topics lately, I fully expect to get flamed if not
just ignored entirely. Such would be par for the course.....as the madness of declaration without reason marches on to really ruin the image and tone
of a site I still love....but somehow? Not quite as much as I once did.
That's a sad realization to come to, but something has changed. The exodus of logic over lunacy and supported fact over superstition or supposition.
That's what's changed.
- One Disillusioned Bunny