posted on Feb, 22 2013 @ 10:07 AM
Originally posted by guanyu
reply to post by nancyliedersdeaddog
Obviously, it goes without saying that I support the 1st Amendment, but we differ on our interpretations
This is not a "difference of interpretation". The text of the First Amendment clearly and unambiguously codifies the right to assembly; if you
don't support that, you don't support the First Amendment.
I have a problem with Freemasonry (and similar initiatory orders and secret societies) because it is an avenue for nepotism.
So is any group, ever. You're throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
It has been and remains capable of being a detriment to the American cause that every man is equal and deserves equal opportunity for life,
liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
On the contrary, it is one of the inspirations for this ideal.
no one can deny that Freemasonry is a hierarchy
Freemasonry is a decentralized network of state governing bodies. For a hierarchy to exist, a central authority would have to.
This Bronze Age hierarchy can still be seen as a full social force in West Africa in the Poro society. Do you believe with sincerity that the
Poro is a benefit to a West African's life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness?
No, but Freemasonry doesn't have near that kind of influence.
Lao Zi's premise that ritual stagnates consciousness
I looked long and hard, and I can't find a single Taoist scholar that agrees with this interpretation of Laozi. It's worth noting that Taoism has a
rich and deep ritual culture of its own; a whole lot of Taoists would be very surprised to know they've been doing it wrong for 10,000 years.
By adhering strictly to any historic doctrine, the natural development of human collective consciousness is stunted. It reverts consciousness
to a primitive state, of older and lower conscious development, as demanded by the ritual.
Statements like these make it clear your unfamiliarity with Masonic ritual. From the Fellowcraft degree:
The study of the liberal arts, that valuable branch of education, which tends so effectually to polish and adorn the mind, is earnestly
recommended to your consideration...
It is clinging to past concepts, regardless of any pretense of progressiveness. It is inimical to reform and self-criticism.
From the Entered Apprentice degree:
We, as Free and Accepted Masons, are taught to make use of it for the more noble and glorious purpose of divesting our minds and consciences of
all the vices and superfluities of life, thereby fitting us, as living stones, for that spiritual building, that house not made with hands, eternal in
I know that you don't want to be told over and over again by someone that, in his opinion, you are part of something in its very nature
sinister, and that I think your organization should be abolished.
I imagine it's something like being told that the subject about which you've just pontificated at length is, upon further reflection, something you
know very little about.
I felt compelled to interject if only because I do not see these anti-Mason criticisms as entitled, as was implicit by the thread
You misunderstood the thread title. He calls "entitled" the idea that every answer should be laid at the feet of the inquiring paranoiac, including