Well, luckily your wants don't override my rights.
I never stated I was a staunch defender of the 1st Amendment, certainly not as it is interpreted by yourselves, in regards to protecting secret societies.
What part of:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
You also have to see that we are protected by the 4th Amendment.
I have a problem with Freemasonry because it is an avenue for nepotism.
Nepotism is not something exclusive to Freemasonry nor is it going to happen more in Freemasonry than anywhere else. Nepotism will occur between any persons with a relationship. I've never received anything not earned from Freemasonry. In fact, I have got out receiving some speeding tickets, but not because of my Masonic affiliation, but because of my family name (I come from a long line of cops).
It has been and remains capable of being a detriment to the American cause that every man is equal and deserves equal opportunity for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Even though the Founding of America was done in secret with many (not all) of them being Masons.
Secrecy breeds trust when used properly.
I don't mean to be curt, or offensive, but I find the entire thing reprehensible and an affront to all decent sensibilities of what is right and good about conduct between men.
So you're incapable of keeping your word? Or keeping secrets?
It is a fact, as uncomfortable of a fact as it is, that Freemasonry is a Bronze Age power structure.
How is our structure from the Bronze Age? Could you elaborate?
With your line of thinking any group could be said to have a Bronze Age structure. Honestly, you're trying to simplify an organization that is not as simple as you try to say it is. Our leadership structure is democratic in nature and our governing system is very modern.
By adhering strictly to any historic doctrine, the natural development of human collective consciousness is stunted.
What exactly is stunted about the Masons?
It is clinging to past concepts, regardless of any pretense of progressiveness. It is inimical to reform and self-criticism.
Well, why would anyone give up a concept if it works and is still applicable?
I know that you don't want to be told over and over again by someone that, in his opinion, you are part of something in its very nature sinister, and that I think your organization should be abolished. Certainly you've probably never done anything wrong there and are decent people. It just doesn't change the fact that it is what it is.
Translation: You guys or your group haven't done anything wrong, but I think you should be abolished anyways.


So you want us to respect your opinion and uphold your 1st Amendment rights, but in the same turn you want to step on our rights? 