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Originally posted by nancyliedersdeaddog
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by nancyliedersdeaddog
When I read some of the links and comments posted on ats from these religious fanatics I feel so lucky I have nothing to do with the church. Btw I thought most mason secrets are just handshakes and rituals not the "secrets of the universe"
well there is that one secret about the meteor that was supposed to hit Russia, but we don't talk about that cuz it's secret.........um......oops!
You better watch out because like irishpackerfan68 said they are going to cut off your finger now since you told me a secret haha! Seriously though If I used sources like some of the people on this site (as proof) I could prove the titanic was really an inside job done by the illuminati and the reason the ship shank wasn't because of an iceberg.
Originally posted by Ben81
Originally posted by nancyliedersdeaddog
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by nancyliedersdeaddog
When I read some of the links and comments posted on ats from these religious fanatics I feel so lucky I have nothing to do with the church. Btw I thought most mason secrets are just handshakes and rituals not the "secrets of the universe"
well there is that one secret about the meteor that was supposed to hit Russia, but we don't talk about that cuz it's secret.........um......oops!
You better watch out because like irishpackerfan68 said they are going to cut off your finger now since you told me a secret haha! Seriously though If I used sources like some of the people on this site (as proof) I could prove the titanic was really an inside job done by the illuminati and the reason the ship shank wasn't because of an iceberg.
are you serious about your last quote ?
if it wasnt shank by an iceberg .. did someone attacked it ?
and for what reasons
never though about that .. that even the titanic would have some conspiracy surrounding it
will do some research to hear different point of view and theories now
It shouldnt matter if it is from the christian resources they are facts.
I want you people to give me your books and resources on how your not.
O wait no thats a secret we cannot expose the secret.
Like your trying to bust my facts by saying that only bible humping christians made that up are you all on drugs.
...make a complete mockery of christianity
You are going to get trolled because no one respects freemasons because of the secrecy.
The government might allow you to exist as an organzation but if it were the whole general population that voted on your existence you wouldnt be around.
And I really hope people will wake up one day to realize we dont need your secret society and completely banish it.
You have no point of being an organization and frankly you people disgust me im sorry i try to be open to everyone but you're going to deserve everything that gets thrown at you
Carl Fitje, grand master of the New York State Freemasons (search), issued a statement Tuesday denying that guns play a role in any officially sanctioned lodge ceremonies.
"We don't use pistols," Steve Mayo, who described himself as a senior deacon of the lodge, told reporters Tuesday. "This is not a Masonic ceremony where we bring pistols."
You tried to twist what was in fine print he was shot at a LODGE.
no where in the aritcle is the word club mentioned.
William James, a new arrival to the lodge, South Side 493 Masons of Patchogue, was killed Monday as he was being initiated into a social club connected to the Masons but not officially part of the organization. A 76-year-old member of the social club, the Fellow Craft Club, was supposed to fire a gun loaded with blanks, but reached into the wrong pocket, drew a licensed, loaded gun and shot Mr. James, 47, in the face.
I'd rather let the people who left your fraternity speak out against you then rather risk my very spirtual existence and sanity to ever commit to such dark arks.
Im the most open person ever I could never keep a secret even if my life depended on it.
There is no such thing as a good secret.
Are you going to invalidate David Icke because you dont agree with him?
Are you going discredit ever single accusation against Freemasonry because its simply not what we do.
I have thousands of pages of information what society does in the eyes of former freemasons.
Im sorry you have yet to prove even a little bit that you guys arent satanists.
Im sure im going to see pages upon pages of how David Icke is a whackjob yet theres no way you can disprove the theory without exposing a secret
Originally posted by guanyu
Well it is clear to anyone who checks back a couple posts that this is a deceptive quote, misconstruing my point, by combining sentences and clauses that were unrelated to each other.
Is insider trading protected by the 1st Amendment?
Also just the "free association" of people exercising their 1st amendment rights to speak freely, right?
Read the text of the Bill of Rights and tell me with a straight face that was meant to protect organizations like Freemasonry.
Is it or is it not an organization built on the foundation of mystery religions from the Bronze Age?
Is it or is it not an accountable organization with complete transparency?
It's not about personal experiences and opinions.
it's wrong, and should go.
Ritual
Well established hierarchies are not easily uprooted;
Closely held beliefs are not easily released;
So ritual enthralls generation after generation.
Harmony does not care for harmony, and so is naturally attained;
But ritual is intent upon harmony, and so can not attain it.
Harmony neither acts nor reasons;
Love acts, but without reason;
Justice acts to serve reason;
But ritual acts to enforce reason.
When the Way is lost, there remains harmony;
When harmony is lost, there remains love;
When love is lost, there remains justice;
But when justice is lost, there remains ritual.
Ritual is the end of compassion and honesty,
The beginning of confusion;
Belief is a colourful hope or fear,
The beginning of folly.
The sage goes by harmony, not by hope;
He dwells in the fruit, not the flower;
He accepts substance, and ignores abstraction.
Originally posted by guanyu
I'm sure Masonic judges decided that Masonry is totally above board and protected.
Well, one can only hope the law is sensibly changed in due time.
I'll just leave you with a final thought.
Rituals are a critical test for every cultivator of spirituality. Those who consider themselves knowledgeable in the Tao, and yet look down on rituals - they don't really know much about the Tao at all.
Good luck on your journey to wisdom.
Well, one can only hope the law is sensibly changed in due time.