Originally posted by g146541
reply to post by FrostForests

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DING DING DING!!!
I think I agree with you 100 percent there.
Too many oops moments indeed.
Then they think, whatcha gonna do?

Originally posted by FrostForests

Originally posted by g146541
reply to post by FrostForests

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DING DING DING!!!
I think I agree with you 100 percent there.
Too many oops moments indeed.
Then they think, whatcha gonna do?

Yeah, I won't outline each event, but ever since 9/11(and yes, I use this as a key point though there may be many well before), it's like they are pushing the people to be wary of all controlling forces, and especially the last year. It's been a long, slow walk at gunpoint, but now they are close and want to walk a little quicker. It's so freaking obvious. It's obvious enough the dull minded are jumping on board, because there are alot of dull minded people who have flooded this site the last 2 years. That has to be what they want, because I firmly believe, as intelligent as we are, we can not outsmart them. They are 20 moves ahead, and have been for at least, *at least* 60-70 years.

Now it's coming to a point. I'm not unsure of this. I'm unsure of what, to what end, this will become. I sure hope it's good, cause I have a feeling it's bad.

edit on 14-2-2013 by FrostForests because: (no reason given)

Judge, jury, and punisher Intentionally set on fire by San Bernardino Sheriffs The police are lying.... I listened to the police scanner for 2 hours continuously with roughly 10,000 other people also following San Bernardino Sheriffs Office on our android phones. Gordan Edwards Police Scanner available through androids google play, is a real time police scanner with a large library of scanner feeds in real time and also archived recordings of each day from each scanner feed world wide. I listened to every bit of communication between the sheriff's and different agency's in the area dealing with this tragedy. The sheriff's were approaching the cabin when things became interesting and a message came through that the agent approaching could see blood splatter on the wall and mattresses piled up by the bed and door. The very next response was from a Sheriff or agent named Steve, saying "we're going to proceed with the burn" or "burn plan" (something to that tone) and then said "remember what we talked about". They then surrounded the cabin and had previously labeled the corners of the cabin as different corresponding numbers and letters like 1a for example. They were radioing back to Steve that each corner was set and a blaze. Steve then checked with each corner to see how each corner was burning. ( this could only show that the sheriff's office had previously planned to burn this building down with Dornor inside. By numbering the corners of the structure you can see the pre-planning that they had discussed. Also proving that the fire was stated on purpose and not a coincidence) The communication between the sheriff's office and anyone in the cabin was non existent. They never attempted entry, nor did anyone throw any smoke or flash bangs into or around the cabin. The fire was set and guarded. At this time news helicopter cameras were asked not to zoom in...one could assume that they didn't want the public to see the sheriff's all standing around setting the building on fire standing at each corner. The fire department was on scene about 600 feet away as communicated by Steve on the police scanner and a female officer continually asking Steve if they should move in and put out the fire. Steve kept them back 600 feet holding off. This further showing it was not an accident and they wanted the fire to continue. Also the sheriff's office knew no one else was in the cabin and that there was no power or tv in this cabin as well as any other occupants due to the contact they had with the owner of the cabin. They also stated today that they knew that no one had been in that cabin since Jan 6th of this year and the son of the owner were contacted about this information prior to the burn. At one point Wolf Blitzer was making the statement that SWAT was entering the building as being reported by the sheriff's office but they had a camera on the house even though told not too, Wolf was interrupted by smoke billowing out of the cabin. Again all this communication between the sheriff's department is archived on the Gordan Edwards Police Scanner available on android. The information is there, the proof of the lies are there. INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY BY A COURT OF LAW AND A JURY OF TWELVE PEERS, NOT GUILTY BECAUSE WE SAY YOU ARE AND PUNISHMENT WILL BE SWIFT AND CARRIED OUT CRUELLY AND IMMEDIATELY!!! Judge dread was there that day and his twelve peers were San Bernardino Sheriffs officers. No attempts were made to take this man in custody. It's crazy to hear all these lies and it makes you wonder if this man even wrote his supposed manifesto... It makes you wonder if any of this stuff being said about this guy is true. The hostages said tonight that he had stated he wasn't going to hurt them and wanted to clear his name.... IF AN ENTIRE POLICE DEPARTMENT THOUGHT YOU KILLED THEIR PARTNERS, AND MADE CRAZY STATEMENTS, WOULD YOU STICK AROUND OR GO STRAIGHT TO THE POLICE OFFICE? I'm just saying that when the police are caught in a lie, it makes you wonder, police are supposed to be extremely integral and truthful and abide by law and order and DUE PROCESS...... NOT IMMEDIATE JUDGE AND JURY. I know what I heard and saw and the common sense that puts it all together to see why police were not able to comment on why it caught on fire and how it could have been an accident. Its sickening. There have been many movies and even some Waco type situations but I thought maybe a modern day California police and sheriff's office would be beyond this even after Waco and the problems that caused for the police in that case. Just to cover the information again... The police communication stated that they purposely set the structure on fire and watched it burn without any attempts to take Dornor alive. Proof is in the numbering and organization of calling out the corners that were being set on fire and the statements made by Steve of "burn it". I would say www.facebook.com...

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