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Originally posted by Monger
Originally posted by neo96
Don't think it is there is a plethora of examples to be found.
Are some youth violent sex offenders? To borrow a phrase, you betcha. Are most? Absolutely not. Saying so is just shy of retarded. It boggles the mind, the kind of ignorance that goes behind a statement like that.edit on 2/13/2013 by Monger because: (no reason given)
As an AZ resident, I'm no fan of Sherriff Joe. That said that article is bs. The majority of the posse members are ex/retired LEOs and military. They weren't put together for this, they already existed and help out all of the time. No one says a word until now... Why? The aren't patroling the schools. They are observing from a distance, like across the street. Sheriff Joe isn't responsible for that stab about not looking for child rapists, that was bad work by CPS.
Overwhelmingly, the parents at the schools they are keeping a eye on have been appreciative of their help.
The only ones complaining are doing so on the basis that they hate Joe. Apparently, also making stuff up and calling journalism.
Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by neo96
Still doesn't discount the fact that the very idea doesn't seem to bother you.
As long as you get your gun nuts like "Sheriff" Joe intimidating kids every day. Thankfully, the schools were smart not to request his "services".
Originally posted by solomons path
reply to post by tothetenthpower
These members are not in the actual schools and do not interact with the kids . . . Any report that says otherwise is a lie.
I know . . . I see these guys every day.
But, as I also pointed out, the issue I have is with the claims that most are this way. Again, this is incorrect. To make such a claim requires the extraordinary evidence to follow suit, Neo. See, It's because to make such a claim so boldly is just wrong and wholly unfair too. It really, really is.
But some are nervous about the idea, and even more concerned about who Arpaio authorizes to carry out actions on his behalf.
"They have guns? No, I don't like that and I can't believe something like this would be implemented without speaking to parents first," Susanne Ross told 3TV.
The posse began patrolling on Monday, and officially rolled out Wednesday, but not all school officials received advance notice.
Arpaio told ABC/Univision in December that it was not up for debate whether the schools had posse members posted outside.
"It doesn't matter whether they like it or don't," he said. "I'm still going to do it. I can't imagine criticism coming when they're given free protection."
I understand your point . . . However, they aren't in full battle gear patrolling the campus. That's media hyperbole. See my response above from the previous thread on this issue, as to how they are "monitoring".
I'm willing to bet, a lot, that most kids don't even know the posse member is anywhere near there.
The idea is to have a visible law-enforcement presence around the schools.
The patrols will not be on the campuses, but rather in the area surrounding the schools. The idea is to have a visible law-enforcement presence around the schools.
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by solomons path
I didn't see that it had been posted before and I did use the search function. However before the thread is closed I've got to say I'm stunned and that's not easy for me to be on ATS anymore.
There are plenty of very legitimate worries about Sheriff Joe, this is just the latest in a long line of them. None of which I have seen debunked as claimed by a 'non-fan'.
Armed volunteers shouldn't be creeping around schools, especially not with such shoddy background checks, I don't care how long the program has been running or how many of them are ex-LEO's. Not all of them are stand up citizens that's for damn sure and one child sex offender slipping through is one too many.
Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by Kali74
The thing that amazes me the most is the hypocrisy of ATS members when it comes to Arpaio. If any other law enforcement agency in the country provided mandatory armed guards there would be an uproar about fascism and talk of the NWO. However since this is Arpaio the people on here act like this is just another reason he is a hero. It just baffles me how Arpaio is able to be one of the most corrupt and despotic politicians in the country and yet garner the respect from a group of people that think every politician is bought and paid for and will label any police action whatsoever as tyranny.