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posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by yourmaker

In this case, we will never see justice done.


YA BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU KEEP REPEATING THIS FRKIN LINE OVER AND OVER AND OVER UNTIL IT STICKS IN THE MINDS OF PEOPLE THAT WE ARE WEAK AND PATHETIC AND YEAH, MAYBE NOTHING WILL EVER BE DONE.

Disgusting, utterly repugnant. This could be anyone! Doesn't matter that it was Chris Dorner.
He set precedent for ANY cop, military or civilian that if you want to out us, then we have the supreme authority to burn you alive with no trial. I'm sick of this attitude that nothing will change. Because WE don't change.

Justice isn't happening because good people are doing NOTHING


Well said! LE are NOT judge, jury and executioner. The fact that it’s a suspected murderer doesn’t make it ok. Today it’s Dorner – Tomorrow it could be anyone deemed and ‘enemy of the state.’

Here is the audio:



At 1:01 the cop clearly says “we’re going to go forward with the plan with the burner…like we talked about.”

Dispatch says, “Copy – Burners deployed…we have fire.”

This behavior from ANY LE agency cannot be tolerated!!




posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 05:32 PM
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Guilty or not, he made his statement by making his last stand.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 05:59 PM
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If those who represent the law do not follow it the law becomes void/flaccid in the eyes of the people anarchy follows. What follows corruption at state federal and police level of the law is what we see in places like the Congo and Mexico today.
Law makers and representatives need to address the fact that a lynch mob killed him and that lynch mob was represented by the law. Angry or not those individuals should no longer wear the shield as they have betrayed the laws they have sworn to uphold.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 06:01 PM
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So in you opinion its ok to murder cornered suspects. you are an effing loon



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 08:11 PM
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Having followed this with some interest, the following can be stated:

Until there was a trial, under the laws of the country, the suspect is considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. It is the conorstone and foundation of the justice system.

Dormer was accused of, but not convicted of, murdering several people, and like some of the more high profile cases in the past, it is the belief that there is enough reasonable doubt so far, as we do not have all of the facts of the case, on the part of the LAPD.

But what, if anything that is found to be hard to believe is that this man is who they say he is, as we do not know who was in the cabin. While it may have been him, it is possible, the question on my mind is the point on the ID. According to the reports, the body that was in the remains, were charred, yet they found an id. Was the id in such a good shape that they could tell? If the body is charred, would that not have destroyed the ID fully as well?

While they actions of the LAPD is questionable, the other point that was brought up, is when did the police become judge, jury and exocutioner? By what right do they have to act in this matter? Why did they not try to negotiate with this person, to try to take him alive? If anything his death, if he is dead, is only going to raise up more questions, and cast a light on not only the LAPD but also the city of Los Angeles. Seems like they are becoming more and more like other cities in the country, where the police is very corrupt, and will do anything to hide that corruption, including killing the witnesses.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 08:18 PM
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Too much wienie-roasting by law enforcement going on. Too many fires.

Feels like destruction of evidence to me.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 08:35 PM
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What if he didn't write the manifesto, OR, it was edited to include the murders? Are we 100% sure he was guilty?
I don't know because I haven't really followed it, but from what I do know, it sounds like some kind of "reality" movie played out in real time.

I'm always suspicious of events the mainstream media focuses on at the exclusion of everything else.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 08:45 PM
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San Bernadino County Sheriff is now denying that the fire was started deliberately. Apparently he wasn't monitoring the radio transmissions.

I expect that LEO's will defend themselves, and I expect that they will pursue dangerous criminals, but this blatant lie does not reflect the professionalism and caution I would expect out of law enforcement. They had other options. This is crazy.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by Creep Thumper
Too much wienie-roasting by law enforcement going on. Too many fires.

Feels like destruction of evidence to me.


Evidence...LOL, what's that, is that what Project Mockingbird, CIA trained assets spew from the nightly 'news' LOL, "we don't need no stinkin' proof, burn the MOfo to the ground". wow. Well in a way I have to agree with the OP, this guy did in a way prove with his 'alleged' death, that the corruption he was said to be fighting against, was so anti-American that in the end it would show itself for what it really was and he was willing to die to let it be shown. I think too in the end ,even if this was some kind of badly staged psyop, it has backfired, like maybe too at Sandy Hook, 9-11, Waco, (and so many others) and it has instead woken up the slumbering masses and is making them ask legitimate questions about just what kind of Anti-American, criminal, Bill of Rights destroying, Marxists and Fascists are calliing the shots. Are they really pushing for a Revolution?



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 09:01 PM
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Glad this guy is dead.

Last thing we needed was a bunch of leftist celebrity led "Free Dorner" rallies. Leftist celebrities have a thing for cop-killers...remember that Mumia guy?



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by solidguy
Glad this guy is dead.

Last thing we needed was a bunch of leftist celebrity led "Free Dorner" rallies. Leftist celebrities have a thing for cop-killers...remember that Mumia guy?

I'm having a laugh here. Did you see the Charlie Sheen thing?

They really think they're important. It's a stitch.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Now, I dont condone Dorner's actions. But I am also shocked by the fact that people think it is just fine and dandy to burn an ALLEGED (operative word) criminal alive. We have due process in this country. Its there for a reason. A cops job should ALWAYS be to attempt to take a suspect alive.

No such intent was shown here. They wanted him dead, and made it so.


It was pretty clear from the start that they were not going to take him alive, especially when they shot up that truck with a hundred bullet holes. We have something in this country called due process where one goes before a jury of their peers, judge and then punishment. Not dished out by corrupt cops.

I am not cheering on Chris from what we have been told, but that is for a jury and judge to decide based on the hard evidence collected.
Those cheering on the corrupt cops carrying out these illegal orders would perhaps feel more at home in Somalia.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 09:28 PM
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What you have here you see is a trial by media and a litmus test to see if it will work in directing people to condone murder by TPB.
This had several Psi Op components that drew parallels with several issues that have happened in the last 10 years



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 09:52 PM
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I could start an entire thread alone based on this music video:


Dorner sounds like "Heuy" aka "fight back".

Two shots and now Heuy's dead.

Tupac called out the fake CIA drug war and called for African American people to straighten/smarten up. It's no surprise he was killed.



Cops give a damn about a negro? Pull the trigger, kill a *n, he's a hero.
Give the crack to the kids who the hell cares? One less hungry mouth on the welfare.
First ship 'em dope & let 'em deal to brothers.
Give 'em guns, step back, and watch 'em kill each other.


We already about know the "Fast & Furious" gun running debacle; selling guns to opposing cartel outfits for our government's best interest. We already know the CIA has been importing drugs via crashed airplanes with coc aine on board.

I think we all need to step back and take in the mess that we've allowed our country to become. I by no means legitimize the killing of innocent people in a quest for vengeance. I have always maintained throughout the "Dorner affair" that there are always other options. He could have contacted the DOJ, he could have appealed higher. He could have started a blog. He could have been more vocal.

The aforementioned video, and it's words echo a sentiment that has been fomenting in LA and California for years. Sublime even covered this feeling in their song, "April 26th 1992".





'Cause everybody in the hood has had it up to here
It's getting harder, and harder, and harder each and every year
Some kids went in a store with their mother
I saw her when she came out she was gettin' some Pampers
They said it was for the black man
They said it was for the Mexican
And not for the white man
But if you look at the streets, it wasn't about Rodney King
In this *ed-up situation and these *ed-up police
It's about comin' up and stayin' on top
And screamin' 1-8-7 on a mother #in' cop


And that was from a white man in LA in 1992. Why do we think anything has changed for the better since then?
edit on 13-2-2013 by MystikMushroom because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 10:02 PM
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posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 10:08 PM
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Meanwhile here in Texas, the headline tonight on the news "Police Didn't Mean to Burn Down Cabin".

For some reason, they feel compelled to defend themselves.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by Tecumte

Originally posted by Creep Thumper
Too much wienie-roasting by law enforcement going on. Too many fires.

Feels like destruction of evidence to me.


Evidence...LOL, what's that, is that what Project Mockingbird, CIA trained assets spew from the nightly 'news' LOL, "we don't need no stinkin' proof, burn the MOfo to the ground". wow. Well in a way I have to agree with the OP, this guy did in a way prove with his 'alleged' death, that the corruption he was said to be fighting against, was so anti-American that in the end it would show itself for what it really was and he was willing to die to let it be shown. I think too in the end ,even if this was some kind of badly staged psyop, it has backfired, like maybe too at Sandy Hook, 9-11, Waco, (and so many others) and it has instead woken up the slumbering masses and is making them ask legitimate questions about just what kind of Anti-American, criminal, Bill of Rights destroying, Marxists and Fascists are calliing the shots. Are they really pushing for a Revolution?


Timing was and is everything. Fat Tuesday, and the Constitutional Carnival
got burned down one more time. Whether Dorner was guilty or not will be just
another bundle of permanently unanswered questions; and it was almost as
crucial as the timing and sloppy execution.
I wanted the truth to come out, and I need ice water too. Oh yeah, and let he
without an open IA file chuck the first flash bang.
For the first time and over the last couple of days, I got to watch the court of
public opinion be ALL there was for him. This is just another closed folder to LAPD,
in disregard of the blowback-- because they won by shutting down the public eye.
Right and wrong are finally out there in our tug-of-war. Forget the drone issue... let's
address this regular systemic murder of evidence. It's getting more plain every op.
Others here are right in their concern: for any reason at all somebody 'powerful
and priveliged' wants, due process gets swept off the table. Any one of us could
have been set up like he might or might not have been... we'll never know, and
are toast today right along with him. Happy Ash Wednesday, fellow conspira-seers.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 10:34 PM
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Here is a question based off of the information given, and it is a head scratcher:
If on Thursday, they found at the Port of San Ysidro his wallet and his ID's in it, then how did they find a Drivers' liscence later on after the cabin was burnt down?



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by vkey08
I was really hoping and still hope that Dorner didn't kill anyone, and that it was only fabrication, but, one thing is a certainty in this world, even if you're another cop.

If you kill a cop your time on the planet is limited.

He deserved at the very least a fair trial, and a jury of his peers, not to be burned alive in a cabin.. If he was found guilty of killing people then yes death penalty him, but he was still alleged to have done it..



Ok, it is very very simple. What happened to being INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN (NOTE PROVEN) GUILTY?
The system is gone, i'm very sorry dear Americans, your country is gone.
You realize there is no turning back, right?
I wouldn't want to live in America, not even for a million dollars a month.

1984



posted on Feb, 14 2013 @ 12:53 AM
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Really? A clear and present danger? I thought we were all innocent until proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of our peers? So you set fire to the person before you even find out if it is the person you are looking for? Everything the :APD did, including shoot at three innocent civilians, was done with pretty flimsy evidence. They had him surrounded. He could have been taken in any number of ways. But no. Burning someone alive who is a "clear and present danger...sounds like laziness and vigilantism to me. I guess he's lucky they didn't lynch him.





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