Compliant slaves...discuss

Let's just chit chat a bit. I don't know if I believe this or not all I want are your thoughts, no more no less. And please...keep things civilized.

Ok, here goes.

- Change curriculum and make students dumb.
-Change caloric intake to kick start puberty.
-Over sexualize everything.
-Poison food supply with compliance enduing drugs.
-Crush the nations spirits through tyranny and police state.
-Start producing low IQ-highly compliant worker "bots"

What say you?

*convince people they're fighting the good fight

"viva la revolution" and all that.

is this in refrence to the USA?

it's a 'soft' communist takeover of the USA

reply to post by XLR8R


Most states are adopting a new curriculum called the common core. It actually is a lot more rigorous and requires more critical thinking on the student's part. Here's a link where you can read the curriculum yourself.

reply to post by XLR8R


Launch campaigns that break up the nuclear family
Breakdown any religions, thus removing the largest contributor of moral values in a society
Removing god from the nation, prayer, ten commandment, etc

Yes those statements are controversial but look at them from a purely analytical point of view, religion is useful in a society. Who gains from it's removal? Who does it hurt?

Nice thread OP, I will be following this. Should be interesting.

Originally posted by tinhattribunal
is this in refrence to the USA?

it's a 'soft' communist takeover of the USA

Attempted takeover. Not going to succeed. At some point it will become hard - for them.

reply to post by byGRACE


Religion to me is useless. As you can read in my signature I feel pretty strongly about this. Religion did not teach me to join hands with my brothers and sisters and love one other. It taught me hypocrisy. As it did many others. It says one thing but does an other. Actions speak louder than words. To me religion, race, political parties, social status is being used to divide the people. Like I've said many times before a people divided is a people easily controlled. Spirituality on the other hand can be a very useful personal tool. I'm agnostic. This does not mean I'm non-believer, it simply means that, to me, the existence of a deity is unprovable. So I don't spend much time on it.

I teach my children love and acceptance. Not to judge people and help their friends as much as they can with out forgetting about themselves. See, it doesn't matter if you're Muslim, Catholic, Agnostic or an atheist. It doesn't matter if you're a republican, a democrat, rich or poor. What truly matters in life is how we treat others and ourselves.

reply to post by smyleegrl


I'm in Canada and this is already in effect. At an early age I taught my children

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Easy to learn, precise and works every time. I was asked by the school to stop because it wasn't the curriculum. I told them to shove it. Not in those words of course. I was polite and respectful. Why? Because the method which is being taught now is inefficient, it wastes time and is not that precise. It even sometimes asks for guess work. C'mon now. We both know guess work doesn't cut it.

Here's an example of critical thinking in math for those who don't know what were talking about.

175 + 356 + 149 = X
100 + 300 + 100 =500
70 + 50 + 40 = 160
5 + 6 + 9 =20
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500
160
+ 20
680

Now, if my children were to use the method I taught them in a test the would get a big fat zero because, according to the curriculum, my method doesn't display why they got to that answer right. That is what I was told.

History class and geography class is no longer History class and Geography class. It's social studies. One book, one class. And the text books are riddled with inaccuracies. Dates that are wrong, spelling mistakes, etc. I know it's not your fault (the teachers) you work with the tools that are given to you. And if it were only up to me you'd all get a pay raise and smaller class' and a budget increase with the proper tools. The no kid left behind bullsnip was a huge mistake. How is a kid supposed to learn if he never experiences failure? How would he cope with failure at a later time having never experienced it? We're heading in the wrong direction fast.

As for The Common Core. Some think it will take away innovation and creativity. By focusing on the analytic (left) side of the brain and not exercising the creative (right) side, some believe we're on the verge of never finding an other Picasso or Strauss or Poe or another da Vinci. That would be very sad indeed.

reply to post by tinhattribunal


No, not the US per se. More like the developed nations of the world. And I don't think communism has much to do with it. Again, that's just another label. Communism,
"system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole"
doesn't sound that bad to me. But those who strive for power are not always the nicest people. Don't let it be run by a psychopath and all will run smoothly. Same goes for capitalism or socialism. Bottom line is they're all the same. Only viewed from a different point.

175 + 356 + 149 = X
100 + 300 + 100 =500
70 + 50 + 40 = 160
5 + 6 + 9 =20
- 500 160 + 20 680

reply to post by XLR8R


This is actually the way we teach math now (trying to avoid the formulaic approach). When students truly understand the base ten system and how to manipulate it, they can solve the problem you gave above mentally. I've seen them do it.

I hate it when teachers require a certain "way" be used, especially in math. There are all sorts of strategies one can use to solve a math problem. Personally, I don't care how my students solve it (so long as the way is correct), I just want them to be able to explain to me how they got their answer. If they can explain it, then I know they've got the concept down pat.

As far as history and social studies, here in North Carolina there's a push to forgo text books and teach using primary resource documents. My husband is department chair of social studies, and this is how they are teaching history. So, for example, when discussing the Civil War, they read (through the Library of Congress) primary sources, such as letters, interviews with slaves, military correspondence, etc. I think that gives a fair more accurate understanding of the history than reading a couple of paragraphs in a textbook.

With regards to creativity, there are a plethora of ways to bring creativity into the classroom. I teach first grade, but my kids are making powerpoints (which they love), animating their written stories, adding music to projects, etc. One of my boys wrote a really cute rap for his assignment. So there are ways to be creative, if the teacher will just nourish that creativity.

Sorry you had such a bad experience with public education. I know you're far from alone in this regard, but hopefully public education will make a turnaround and improve. That's my hope, anyway.

reply to post by smyleegrl


I've read in past posts that you actually take it upon your self to help your kids. I wish more teachers did that. Huge for you. Unfortunately I think you're a minority. A lot teachers go in and just do their "job" when IMO it should be much more than just a job. Helping kids expand their minds is one of the most important roles a parent can't have. That's why being a teacher is such important work.

Have an awesome day Smylee.

My wife and I are a combo...

She runs the business at home (we have a Tack Shop (horse needs, saddles, etc.) and Stables (we board others horses)...while I play the obedient worker bot (so we have a steady check, insurance, etc.).

Unfortunately, we haven't figured out a way to avoid one of us being a worker bot, but at least there is the opportunity for growth, and more down the line.

On the plus side, we're fairly happy where we are, so can't complain too much.

reply to post by Gazrok


I've browsed through your posts and you don't seem to have a low IQ at all nor seem like a compliant worker bot. You seem pretty focused and provide for you and yours. Nothing wrong with that at all. I don't know what you do, it might be assembly line work, insurance sales, garbage man. It doesn't mater. You seem like the kind of person that thinks on his feet and as long as you're happy all the power to you. A tack shop, nice. My father has horses. He used to have Belgians now he has Canadians. Both very nice draft horses.

reply to post by XLR8R


I tend to work for software companies, mid level management duties, etc.
I am pretty involved in the family business though, so at least I get the entrepreneurial reward there.