Originally posted by kosmicjack
San Bernardino Sheriff's Press conference: "We didn't intentionally burn down the cabin."
Well then. that's all neat and tidy.
I suggest we all totally take their word for it,
Despite what we all heard on the scanners. And saw on TV. And the three shot civilians.
Originally posted by XalienagendaX
Did anyone watch the police update that just happened? Holy crap the officers who spoke sure as snip are trying to cover up things...they couldn't look any more guilty. Wow...what a disgrace.
Originally posted by DerekJR321 " are we really expected to be this stupid?!??!?"
Dorner didn’t decide the cops should burn down the cabin he was in.
We normally agree but I think you’re in left field on this one….still respect you though!
Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by seabag
Obviously it was because if you listen to the video at 1:01, the cop says “we’re going forward with the plan with the burners….like we talked about.” Obviously they planned to execute him that way prior to finding him.
I'm still fairly certain that referring to a certain type of CS canister as a 'burner' is not all that uncommon. The BurnSafe canisters. My understanding is that these are not all that safe and are typically used after normal teargas as they are more likely to cause a fire.
Again, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the police were hoping the guy would be killed and not face trial, which I have a huge problem with. I just think we should be aware that a 'burner' isn't necessarily something that's only purpose is in fact to catch something on fire.
Originally posted by jaffer44
reply to post by Domo1
I have a haed time believing the cannistor therory.
I look at it like this
If I went to court against a insurance company about my house burning down and they bought the audio recording into court I would be screwed.
Whats good for the goose is good for the gander
Originally posted by jimmyx
Originally posted by iwontrun
Wow last week it was talk of killing "suspected" terrorists with drone strikes, now its actually killing "suspected" killers with "ye" age old burning of the stake. What is our country coming to where due prosess is just a term of the past? Make sure hence forth your not suspected of a crime TPTB might just kill you to save court costs!
that's right...kill someone, and you will be killed. everybody is all excited about this guy having some type of rights. gees, where have you been, if you do not give up immediately, and cause LE to fear you, you will be killed by any means necessary. this has been going on for decades. why should LE risk their own lives, just so this SOB can have his day in court?
I respectfully disagree. When you have killed cops, had shootouts with cops and kidnapped citizens.....you really have two choices when the end comes. You can surrender or be killed. Stand Trial or Suicide by Cop. Of all people, he knew that best.
He made the choice because only HE could control the option to surrender. When that choice was rejected the choice for the cops was made for them. End it by shoot-out and risk more cops? Or END IT. They chose to end it....and I'll bet there are at least a couple children and wives of the cops and deputies around that cabin who can't know how much better their lives are today for that decision having been made.
Recall, my upbringing was around cops. I have no sympathy for a bad cop...and LESS for a bad cop who goes on to murder OTHER cops. This one was both. Given the lack of choices Dorner left them? They saved California 10's of millions in running him to Death Row.....as he was going no where else if taken alive, IMO.
I think the canister theory makes the most sense. It would be the next reasonable action to take, cops know that what they say on those radios is getting recorded, the media was there, the investigation and manhunt were highly publicized etc.
Originally posted by bodybagPAT
reply to post by jaffer44
So shooting old lady's in the pickup wasn't bad intel come on
Lots of us would ask you the same question
What evedence as far as i know we all get our day in court
Fortunately, very small amount of society agrees with your way of thinking.
What did you want?
The police to be police and follow the law like the rest of us
A cop to sneak inside, take some photos of him, run out, print them up, so the police could be 100% sure it was him?
No i will decide if he is guilty or not after seeing the evedence in court
HE TIED UP 2 CLEANING LADIES! THEY ESCAPED! THEY IDENTIFIED THE ASSAILANT AS DONER!
He tied up you mean he wasn't so dangours after all would hAve been easier to kill them wouldnt it ?
IF THATS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU TO THINK THE POLICE DONT HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO AFTER HIM THE WAY THEY DID, WHATS WRONG WITH YOU?????
What is wrong with you of corse i don'd agree with shooting old lady's and burning houses down and then lie about it
I could just see it now
"Excuse me, Mr. Doner; Would you pretty please, with sugar on top, come out of the cabin now? Pleeeeease??"
That would be a start They do have experts to try and help talk him out and give himself up there called negotiators as has already been pointed out earlier
But I dont think have read what others think have you ?
You seem more interested in trying to belittle people for asking very valid questions.
edit on 13-2-2013 by jaffer44 because: (no reason given)