Big Bear police caught on scanner discusing burning down the cottage dronner was in and then it burn, page 5


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reply posted on 13-2-2013 @ 12:58 PM by butcherguy
Originally posted by Wildbob77
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post by OkieDokie



I believe that "burners" is police slang for tear gas. Sometimes the tear gas canisters cause fires. Hence the slang name burners.

People need to do some research before they assume this was an assassination.

Using tear gas to force someone out of a building seems like it's pretty routine.

Although if I owned the cabin, I'd expect the police to pay to rebuild.

People thinking what they do regarding an assassination probably relates to the sheriffs saying ' Burn the mother----ker down'.


reply posted on 13-2-2013 @ 01:39 PM by Tardacus
Originally posted by MystikMushroom
I'm pretty sure they used AN-M14 thermite grenades. They look very similar to CS gas or smoke grenades. Remember, the spokeswoman was telling the media that the rubble was "still to hot" -- well what stays hot for a very long time? Thermite. Calling one of these grenades a "burner" wouldn't be a stretch. Here is what they look like:


Here is more info from globalsecurity.org on them. Structures are some of the listed uses for these types of grenades. I believe from what people heard on the scanner, that seven "burners" were used.

I'm pretty sure this is what a "burner" is.


I believe you are correct, that would explain why they had to let it burn to the ground and didn`t want the fire fighters up there spraying water. Thermite and water is a bad combination.


reply posted on 13-2-2013 @ 01:57 PM by fnpmitchreturns
reply to post by LucidDreamer85



After kicking in our door .....as he shot our attacking dogs he would meet his end .......


reply posted on 13-2-2013 @ 03:15 PM by kurthall
reply to post by sprtpilot



Yes I was, I listened twice,,,and when they said we have 3 burners (That means tear gas) then the fire brook out they then say, there is a fire in the front watch it hey come out the back, and then there were more shots fired...so Yeah I listened.,


reply posted on 13-2-2013 @ 03:42 PM by votan
reply to post by jaffer44



due process what/? eff that burn the effer down.

that is what america is about people. Get used to it.


reply posted on 13-2-2013 @ 03:47 PM by YouSir
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to
post by jaffer44


Ummmm.. Excuse me? How many cops and innocents did Dorner have to murder in cold blood and ambush before they stopped playing games with him and stopped the attempts to give him a nice, warm handcuffing moment with the perp walk for all to see??

Has it occurred to anyone that Dorner FORCED this outcome by his own choosing? I doubt he really wanted fire as the method. Who does?! However, for suicide by cop? What else did he have?? He was going to die on California's Death Row if he was LUCKY.

If not? He was truly a man in the worst of ALL worlds. He would be going into the maximum security prison world as an ex-LAPD cop. Not even a small town cop he could claim was a good guy or something...but LAPD. WELL KNOWN LAPD at that. Now usually, guards may be half way decent to a cop on the inside. Not Dorner. He's a Cop KILLER too!

So the outcome is tragic but entirely expected. I wouldn't have bet cash on it. I wasn't that sure. Expected is a fair word though. He had ZERO future once the media lights went off.....outside of torment and anguish inflicted by all sides of the system, once inside. I think he went out in a blaze of glory, as intended. He likely just didn't mean it to be THAT literal.
Ummm...excuse me.....So we throw due process out the window and now high five and roast marshmallows while the LEO's get to play Judge Dredd and you think this is just great. Hopefully you wont have to eat your words...but I think I'm a little tired of you thinking you stand for some sort of constitutional rule of law. WTF....why even pretend anymore...especially when we can be so selective in which of the enumerated rights we get to pick and choose for others simply because we read a story in a paper or watched some footage.

This whole event just makes me sick...Everyone of those Leo's that put on the mantle of Judge, Jury and Executioner should be tried for murder....every damned one of them. Who's word do we have but their own..."Burn the MotherF-cker down"...I hope you have the good sense to rethink what you wrote.

It seems to me that enumerated rights are only good for some of the people...some of the time..........Just as I reiterated that OWS had a constitutional right to protest...even though I didn't agree with their desires, I went to the mat here on ATS to defend their right to assemble...Nor will I compromise my firm belief that Mr. Dorner had every right to a fair trial and not to be burned alive by those who are sworn to uphold the law...Even though I find his public support of Barak Obama and his dislike of the 2nd ammendment repugnant...as reported...I will still champion his right to justice...............NONE of you know anything beyond what we were spoon fed by the LAPD and the media...

When otherwise constitutional persons can selectively pick and choose which rights are to be afforded.......then perhaps I find myself in the wrong company...and no longer have to wonder how or why it all turned upside down.

YouSir


reply posted on 13-2-2013 @ 04:28 PM by jaffer44
reply to post by Wrabbit2000



This thread is not about what we think of dorner its about weather it's ok to burn a home to get a kill a suspect
Yes a suspect
So far anyone who has said its ok to burn a home has mentioned how bad dorner is i dont care about him this is not the point.
What next someone stoll a car and then went to ground in a house
R LETS BURN IT DOWN


reply posted on 13-2-2013 @ 04:37 PM by Domo1
Originally posted by Wildbob77
reply to
post by OkieDokie



I believe that "burners" is police slang for tear gas. Sometimes the tear gas canisters cause fires. Hence the slang name burners.

People need to do some research before they assume this was an assassination.

Using tear gas to force someone out of a building seems like it's pretty routine.

Although if I owned the cabin, I'd expect the police to pay to rebuild.


There are two types of canisters. They tried the ones without the incendiary component first, then opted to use the more powerful type that I too believe are called 'burners' by some people. Now that being said I'm fairly certain that many involved in the stand off would have preferred this guy never got to see a trial. I also kind of doubt that the guy wanted to see a trial and would have shot it out anyway.
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