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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by jaffer44
Ummmm.. Excuse me? How many cops and innocents did Dorner have to murder in cold blood and ambush before they stopped playing games with him and stopped the attempts to give him a nice, warm handcuffing moment with the perp walk for all to see??
Has it occurred to anyone that Dorner FORCED this outcome by his own choosing? I doubt he really wanted fire as the method. Who does?! However, for suicide by cop? What else did he have?? He was going to die on California's Death Row if he was LUCKY.
If not? He was truly a man in the worst of ALL worlds. He would be going into the maximum security prison world as an ex-LAPD cop. Not even a small town cop he could claim was a good guy or something...but LAPD. WELL KNOWN LAPD at that. Now usually, guards may be half way decent to a cop on the inside. Not Dorner. He's a Cop KILLER too!
So the outcome is tragic but entirely expected. I wouldn't have bet cash on it. I wasn't that sure. Expected is a fair word though. He had ZERO future once the media lights went off.....outside of torment and anguish inflicted by all sides of the system, once inside. I think he went out in a blaze of glory, as intended. He likely just didn't mean it to be THAT literal.
Originally posted by pacifier2012
He is a killer, he's on record as having killed and planning to kill more. If he's holed up, the duty the Police have to protect me is to do whatever they need to to take him down by whatever means is the least risk to them. Shot, burn, blow up, whatever.
If I was my house, I have insurance and I'd say go ahead. Finish this already..
Does your comment mean your precious house and material possessions are more important to you than the lives of Police Officers attempting to take out a killer?
You are a very sick and selfish person. Money and material things will be a curse around your neck all your life.
Originally posted by Wildbob77
It sounds like a heat of the moment issue.
When your friends and co workers have just been in a firefight with a known killer, someone might exclaim something stupid like this over the radio.
He wasn't going anywhere.
Originally posted by pacifier2012
He is a killer, he's on record as having killed and planning to kill more. If he's holed up, the duty the Police have to protect me is to do whatever they need to to take him down by whatever means is the least risk to them. Shot, burn, blow up, whatever.
If I was my house, I have insurance and I'd say go ahead. Finish this already..
Does your comment mean your precious house and material possessions are more important to you than the lives of Police Officers attempting to take out a killer?
You are a very sick and selfish person. Money and material things will be a curse around your neck all your life.
Originally posted by Wildbob77
It sounds like a heat of the moment issue.
When your friends and co workers have just been in a firefight with a known killer, someone might exclaim something stupid like this over the radio.
Ok let's say he goes to your house. Where your family lives and sleeps.
You still cool with them burning down your house ?
He barricaded himself, knowing by having BEEN on the side working against him, what they would next do. They did it...and he died..as he chose.
Originally posted by MystikMushroom
I'm pretty sure they used AN-M14 thermite grenades. They look very similar to CS gas or smoke grenades. Remember, the spokeswoman was telling the media that the rubble was "still to hot" -- well what stays hot for a very long time? Thermite. Calling one of these grenades a "burner" wouldn't be a stretch. Here is what they look like:
Here is more info from globalsecurity.org on them. Structures are some of the listed uses for these types of grenades. I believe from what people heard on the scanner, that seven "burners" were used.
I'm pretty sure this is what a "burner" is.