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Originally posted by Kadmiel
Actually, this is misinformation they used an incindary bomb in the home. When they do this it generates alot of heat and the police forces around the country call them "burners" you need to do a little more research op before posting HOAX information.
Actually, this is misinformation they used an incindary bomb in the home.
Originally posted by bodybagPAT
There is NO conspiracy. Dorner killed police officers, and he killed the children of a police officer.
I get the whole 'innocent until proven guilty' thing, but this man said what he was going to do, did it, and threatened to do more of the same crimes.
You are all so ridiculous; that if this had ended a different way, lets say, the cabin was never burnt down and instead he just shot himself; you would all still be posting about how the poor innocent until proven guilty man was being hunted by the police like a wild animal and they had no right to chase him into a cabin.
Now hear me out, heres the issue (how dare someone come to a different conclusion than you! I must be a sheeeep!):
You all have your panties in a jam and think that since now they turned Dorner into a Crispy Critter, Police all across the nation will use this as standard operating procedure. Newsflash: They won't.
Originally posted by Mclaneinc
Originally posted by Grimpachi
No one including cops is going to worry about if someone is innocent when they are being shot at.
The whole innocent until proven guilty dialog is for the courts it doesn’t have any place for those in the field who are dodging bullets.
They didn't have to dodge bullets, he was pinned down in a small building with snipers zero'ed in on any movement, the situation was as they say 'contained', unless he had a bloody big shovel the only way out was covered. Once pinned down the situation should have been turned into a talking him out thing, he could not have just snuck away unnoticed.
The fact they went straight in for the burning out is outrageous..
I have every sympathy for a cop on the beat, its a bad world out there with danger 24/7 but what went on here smells like BS and lets not forget there's 2 women shot up by over zealous Police.
A bad day for the force all around...
I don’t see them being willing to put themselves in harm’s way for Dorners sake any more than they needed to especially with news coming in that one of the cops he just shoot had died.
Originally posted by pacifier2012
He is a killer, he's on record as having killed and planning to kill more. If he's holed up, the duty the Police have to protect me is to do whatever they need to to take him down by whatever means is the least risk to them. Shot, burn, blow up, whatever.
If I was my house, I have insurance and I'd say go ahead. Finish this already..
Does your comment mean your precious house and material possessions are more important to you than the lives of Police Officers attempting to take out a killer?
You are a very sick and selfish person. Money and material things will be a curse around your neck all your life.
Even if they dropped a hellfire missle on him with a drone it would have been have the right thing to do.
Originally posted by pacifier2012
He is a killer, he's on record as having killed and planning to kill more. If he's holed up, the duty the Police have to protect me is to do whatever they need to to take him down by whatever means is the least risk to them. Shot, burn, blow up, whatever.
If I was my house, I have insurance and I'd say go ahead. Finish this already..
Does your comment mean your precious house and material possessions are more important to you than the lives of Police Officers attempting to take out a killer?
You are a very sick and selfish person. Money and material things will be a curse around your neck all your life.
Originally posted by bodybagPAT
Siiiiigh....
none of you get this.
You are all so ridiculous;
Now hear me out, heres the issue, You all have your panties in a jam, call me an inbred. I'm called mentally unstable inbred, I'm inbred. I think differently than you, I have roid rage. I live in Los Angeles in some trailer with a banjo, inbred, used roids, roids to kick some chumps ass.
Times like these I do hope the government is taking all your names and soon to arrest you all and take you to FEMA camps.
bodybagPATedit on 14-2-2013 by bodybagPAT because: I ate so much steroids today, b/c I am an inbred.
Originally posted by Oannes
People don't go off like this for no reason. He had something on the police department. They were going to make sure he was silenced. One way or another.
Originally posted by ecapsretuo
reply to post by jaffer44
A short answer to your question is, it is not OK. Americans are entitled to due process. It is a dangerous precedent that has already been set with events like Move and Waco. A poster in a different thread pointed out other such cases, where dissidents in stand offs were burned, and the blame has always been diverted from the possibility that the fires were intentionally set by authorities.
Here we have seen the enforcement arm again take it upon themselves to be judge, jury, and executioner.
Armed and dangerous he was, and it is justification for Dorner's death. But what is with the fires, surely to end a standoff with death, in these instances.
The cops are too scared to come close... they lack skill and tactics but to revert to medieval method?
The conspiracy here is that the fire will be denied as having been set, as we have seen in the past incidents.
Sure, come on with your 'there was no other way...'
But this situation makes it okay now to respond to any (allegedly, perhaps even) 'armed and dangerous' person or group , by indiscriminately destroying the place and the life within?
It is dangerous that the premise could become acceptable to LE.
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