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Acceptance Of Homosexuality Leads To Extinction

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posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 10:14 PM
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No one needs proof that homosexuality is being forced on people right?


Just say no.




posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by snowspirit



No one needs proof that homosexuality is being forced on people right?


Just say no.


Nice. Too bad you didn't elaborate on that. He is referring to the war on drugs and homosexuality in prisons especially those without conjugal visits (abomination)...among other things.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 10:37 PM
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Yeah, I forgot about the prison system. And how many people are incarcerated.
I almost think the drugs in there are needed to get past the atrocities the prisoners have to put up with.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 10:41 PM
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They kidnap kids too. They use them as sex slaves.

What does slavery and paedophilia have to do with the topic matter


That's horrible and it deserves its own thread.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 10:46 PM
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Originally posted by NarrowGate
Acceptance of homosexuality is acceptance of abomination and Satan (who brought death into the world). Same with acceptance of "abortion" (dismemberment of babies). That is only obvious though (right?).

Much love to all men. Homosexuals must find the Lord. Many of them choose not to, and accuse Christians of hate when in reality we are looking to help them.


Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe, this 'God' of yours, who supposedly loves us all regardless, has no problem with homosexuality? Or that the homosexuals who choose not to find this Lord that we have no evidence exists are in fact just scientifically minded people who can only put faith in things which have been proven?


No one needs proof that homosexuality is being forced on people right?


Forgive me, but I appear to have been living under a rock, because I must be the only one who has not seen this proof of which you speak. Please, enlighten me.

Fact of the matter is homosexuality will no more cause extinction than the common cold will. Some people are gay, fact. Some people are also sterile, or choose not to have kids. Some people are (unfortunately) unable to carry to term, or shoot blanks.

1 - 3.5% of the population is gay (depending on where you live). Let's approximate that to 20 in 1000 people. Or, to make it relevant, 10 couples in every 500.
Those 10 couples MIGHT (very big might as there's nothing to stop them) not be having kids, but the other 490 are.
If those 490 couples have only one kid each we have a population of 1470.
But they won't have one kid each. The USA has around 33 twin births per 1000 people. So 33 of those couples will have two kids, meaning the population would be 1503 (if my maths are correct, probably not as it's almost 5am).
Whether they're right or not, after only ONE generation the population has increased around 50%. As time goes on and those children begin to reproduce, the population will increase further.

That's the opposite of extinction. That's thriving.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by snowspirit
reply to post by NarrowGate
 


Yeah, I forgot about the prison system. And how many people are incarcerated.
I almost think the drugs in there are needed to get past the atrocities the prisoners have to put up with.


Almost you say?

Then they if and when they get caught with them = longer sentence.

I know if 3 homos gang rape someone in prison and get away with it some killin needs to be done, along with some dosing. Too bad most people disagree. "They should have thought about that before they blah blah blah". Wait till they get out and your son or daughter meets one. "Well you should have that about that before you allowed *what has been stated*".



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by secretsister65
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I'm from New York City. Believe me I know what I'm talking about. They kidnap kids too. They use them as sex slaves.
edit on 13-2-2013 by secretsister65 because: Don't try to shut me up!


I can think of many heterosexual people who have done this too. I'm struggling to think of a homosexual, but the numbers of heterosexual kidnappers that instantly came into my mind is boggling.

That is horribly offensive, and ignorant thing to say. If you've had a bad experience or know someone who has, I apologise, but that generalisation is as accurate as any racist, prejudice or offensive comment is. Even if 1,000 of a particular group do one thing, you cannot, CANNOT, attribute that same characteristic to a population possibly over a million strong.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by JackofBlades

Originally posted by NarrowGate
Forgive me, but I appear to have been living under a rock, because I must be the only one who has not seen this proof of which you speak. Please, enlighten me.


Yes you have been. Turn on the TV you see homosexuality, the movies, the military ("Nutt to butt privates" - ask any scout or tanker who went to Knox), gay marriage (marriage was instituted by God who called homosexuality an abomination do you need proof of this?), the war on drugs, prison systems, schools (do you need me to elaborate there too?). I could go on.


The rest of your post basically speaks for itself.
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posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 10:56 PM
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Everyone know gays are perverts. I'm sick of them and their sick system. They think they are taking over the world with the New World Order. We don't need a world full of sick people that mate with anything with an orifice. Stop calling me ignorant. I'm not going to shut up.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by secretsister65
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Everyone know gays are perverts. I'm sick of them and their sick system. They think they are taking over the world with the New World Order. We don't need a world full of sick people that mate with anything with an orifice. Stop calling me ignorant. I'm not going to shut up.


We don't need a world full of people judging people based on things they know nothing of either.

Gays are perverts? So are fornicators and adulterers. We all need help don't we.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 10:58 PM
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Stop being ignorant.
Shut up.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 11:00 PM
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There are two sides to this debate.

Only one of them has consistently, intentionally, derailed this thread.

That sucks, but it's also telling. So I suppose that's useful some how.
edit on 13-2-2013 by Lucid Lunacy because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 11:11 PM
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I don't need help. I'm straight, square, honest, non-delusional, righteous and Catholic. What we need is to discipline the wierdos in this world because its out of control! Harmony, fairness, freedom, love, its all a thing of the past. The boob tube is propulgating all kinds of decadence and its not because all of the topics have been done in the arts. The New World Order Conspiracy is dragging the culture down, so they can use immoral people in their efforts to take over the world. They think Evil is a virtue. Even if the perverts got married they'd sue each other for divorce. Then the cat fight would really start, and they would think they were brilliant. This is not about heterosexuals, its about homosexuals. If everyone were gay there would ba a lot worse problems than less people, which the New World Order already thought of. The not only destroyed the family, they started the tsunami. We definately don't need a world run by sick people.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 11:16 PM
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Even if 1,000 of a particular group do one thing, you cannot, CANNOT, attribute that same characteristic to a population possibly over a million strong.


Total New York population (2011 Census) = 19,570,261

3.5% = 684,959
5% = 978,513
10% = 1,957,026

Using 5% many seem to be using puts it at a million strong indeed
I hope I did the calculations correctly haha



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by secretsister65
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I don't need help. I'm straight, square, honest, non-delusional, righteous and Catholic.


Thank you for breeding hatred for the Church.

We are here to help save souls, not judge them and persecute them. You do need help, and any Catholic should know that they need help. You are not living your faith if you think you do not need help
. Without God you can not be righteous.

Your posts have been judgmental, and you have judged wrongly. Therefore you are not at the point in your spiritual life that you so pridefully think you are.

This is coming from a straight Catholic who attempts to be honest and realizes we are all delusional.

eta: If you are really concerned about NWO and end of times your time is better spent praying than on ATS. I myself do not believe the NWO is in effect and we are not in the end times. I might live to see the end times if I am blessed though
as long as I am not one of those left behind.
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edit on 13-2-2013 by NarrowGate because: used the word lucky instead of blessed - luck does not exist



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 11:29 PM
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Homosexuality was openly practiced in greece and rome. The 2 cultures that all white people originate from. This fact completely negates that argument.

Even if everyone started #$%*ing #$%%, I think most would be able to do the nasty for the sake of keeping our species alive.

There are a vast multitude of reasons the birthrate has gone down. More widespread access to birth control being the big one.

Plus, on a side note, lower birth rates are a good thing. Overpopulation is a very real threat. We need self-imposed negative population growth, before evil means are necessary.
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posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 11:32 PM
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The problem with the Church is that it is full of devil worshippers and that was a strategic move of the New World Order. The help we need is to get RID OF THE WIERDOS, because they are ruining the church. They need security, as in POLICE. They need to register the true identities of all of the priests, and make sure they are not fake IDs, but real priests. Just like the Jessica Lumsford Act, that requires personnel in schools to pass a background check. If they are going to run such an important organization, open to the public, providing services like soul saving to the public, they have to be mindful of security. Aberrant people should not be running establishments. Then you get people like Jeffrey Damler running for president and everyone thinks it is fashionable. The Church can and should be firmer. They can Inquire about people's heresy, they can Excommunicate them, and they can Condemn them. They have to do this now. The world is getting out of control. Its not my soul's problem. I need my church. I don't appreciate a bunch of WEIRDOS ruining it.



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 11:33 PM
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I myself do not believe the NWO


So you thought G Bush Sr, Henry Kissinger, Barry Soetoro, Pope John Paul II, and many other high profile people were just kiddin when they said the NWO was happnin?



posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 11:35 PM
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Update to the OP Data!

All on-topic thoughts from both sides are encouraged and appreciated.

I could really use insight from you all because I don't know the history of these countries. Some people accused me of misrepresenting the Birth Rate data. Others pointed out I didn't provide enough to give a complete picture.

So I went back and collected the data from 1980 through 2012 for all the OP countries.
Birth rate, crude (per 1,000 people)

USA
1980-82 = 16
1983-87 = 16
1988-92 = 16.2
1993-97 = 15.2
1998-02 = 14.6
2003-07 = 14
2008-12 = 14

Argentina
1980-82 = 24.3
1983-87 = 22.6
1988-92 = 21.8
1993-97 = 20.6
1998-02 = 18.6
2003-07 = 17.8
2008-12 = 17

Belgium
1980-82 = 12
1983-87 = 12
1988-92 = 12.2
1993-97 = 11.4
1998-02 = 11
2003-07 = 11.4
2008-12 = 12

Canada
1980-82 = 15
1983-87 = 14.8
1988-92 = 15
1993-97 = 12.8
1998-02 = 11
2003-07 = 11
2008-12 = 11

Denmark
1980-82 = 10.3
1983-87 = 10.6
1988-92 = 12.4
1993-97 = 13
1998-02 = 12.4
2003-07 = 12
2008-12 = 11.3

Iceland
1980-82 = 19.3
1983-87 = 16.8
1988-92 = 18.4
1993-97 = 16.4
1998-02 = 14.4
2003-07 = 14.6
2008-12 = 15.3

Netherlands
1980-82 = 12.6
1983-87 = 12.4
1988-92 = 13
1993-97 = 12.4
1998-02 = 13
2003-07 = 11.6
2008-12 = 11

Norway
1980-82 = 12
1983-87 = 12.4
1988-92 = 14
1993-97 = 14
1998-02 = 12.8
2003-07 = 12.2
2008-12 = 13

South Africa
1980-82 = 34.6
1983-87 = 32.6
1988-92 = 29.4
1993-97 = 26.2
1998-02 = 24.6
2003-07 = 23
2008-12 = 21.3

Spain
1980-82 = 14.3
1983-87 = 12
1988-92 = 10.2
1993-97 = 9.2
1998-02 = 9.8
2003-07 = 11
2008-12 = 11

Sweden
1980-82 = 11.3
1983-87 = 11.8
1988-92 = 14
1993-97 = 12
1998-02 = 10.2
2003-07 = 11.4
2008-12 = 12

As you can see some decrease. Some increase. Some fluctuate. Some are fairly constant. Again each of these countries are currently growing exponentially, but that's additional factors to births.

So anyone familiar with any of these countries willing to share thoughts on some of the variables contributing to changes in birth rates.
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posted on Feb, 13 2013 @ 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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I myself do not believe the NWO


So you thought G Bush Sr, Henry Kissinger, Barry Soetoro, Pope John Paul II, and many other high profile people were just kiddin when they said the NWO was happnin?


Actually I did not know JPII said that, but I did say "in effect". People have been pushing for the NWO for centuries. I do not think they are making much forward progress here....We are still in the divide and conquer phase.



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