A Spectral Tragedy. Strange, Weird experience in the Far West. (1890), page 1


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reply posted on 13-2-2013 @ 12:39 PM by Kandinsky
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What an interesting account.

Can you provide more details about the town or city where the Evening Tribune was published? It was a fairly common title in the English-speaking world of the period. The reason I ask is because the writer was clearly well-educated and articulate. At times, the phrasing is very literary and that made me wonder if they were perhaps an author?

Looking at ancestry sites for the name 'Edward B. Payne' uncovers a few examples. One of whom is in this digital archive and was in San Francisco. Five more candidates feature in the 1940 US Census if we allow for an age (at writing) of early 20s minimum.

The account has features of fiction in the sense that it's got a straightforward plot and a neat and tidy conclusion. The 1890s were a high-water mark for supernatural tales too, in fact a lot of classic spooky literature was written in that decade. So it would be topical for the period and plenty of authors to emulate too.

I'm not trying to rule out possibility that it was a genuine experience just saying we could get an idea of who the man was. A little historical digging can be good fun.

S&F for fascinating story



reply posted on 13-2-2013 @ 01:35 PM by VegHead
What a great find! Very fun read and thanks for sharing.

I don't think we have reason to believe this was intended to be a "true" story. Newspapers of the time often ran fiction and even serials. They may have had a call for ghost stories - you never know. It'd be nice to have more context - the newspaper, the date of publication, etc. It does seem awfully neat and tidy to be anything other than fiction... plus such a long observation of a residual haunting seems a little too good to be true, and unprecedented really.

Thanks for the post!


ETA

This came from The Overland Monthly. (
www.nevadaobserver.com...)

en.wikipedia.org...


Overland Monthly was a monthly magazine based in California, United States, and published in the 19th and 20th century.

The magazine's first issue was in July 1868, published by Bret Harte, and continued until the late 1875. The original publishers, in 1880, started The Californian, which became The Californian and Overland Monthly in October 1882. In January 1883, the effort reverted to The Overland Monthly (starting again with Volume I, number 1). In 1923 the magazine merged with Out West to become Overland Monthly and the Out West magazine, and ended publication in July 1935.

Famous writers, editors, and artists included:

Ambrose Bierce
Alice Cary
Willa Cather
Frona Eunice Wait Colburn
Bret Harte
Ina Coolbrith
Edgar Fawcett
Henry George
John Brayshaw Kaye
Clarence King
Jack London
Josephine Clifford McCracken
Joaquin Miller
John Muir
Hugo Wilhelm Arthur Nahl
Stephen Powers - on California Native Americans.
William Saroyan
Clark Ashton Smith
Charles Warren Stoddard
Mark Twain
Joseph Pomeroy Widney - contributed 8 articles.

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So this is an early lit magazine. The above, while a fun read, is undoubtedly a work of fiction. (IMO)

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reply posted on 13-2-2013 @ 01:44 PM by Kandinsky
reply to post by VegHead

Nice work.

We could be looking at a pseudonymous name for a known author.


reply posted on 13-2-2013 @ 06:14 PM by virraszto
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Kandinsky
Great find on that letter from Edward Payne. I'll try to follow up on it and do some research.

VegHead
Another great find. I see that was published a year earlier than the newspaper article.

I'd like to see if I can find this Edward Payne, and see if he did have a brother 20 yrs older. Would
be interesting if I could find anything.
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