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African Americans, Obama and illegal immigration

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posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 11:34 AM
Blacks are now crying about illegal immigration and Obama. As a black man, this makes me laugh. People like Cornell West and Tavis Smiley have been complaining about Obama and they're called Uncle Tom's by Democrat House Negroes like Al Sharpton and the shucking and jiving Steve Harvey.

No sooner did President Barack Obama and a group of senators separately outline proposals to revamp the nation’s immigration system than the phone lines on several African-American-oriented talk radio shows heated up with callers blasting the plans.

“Amnesty,” complained Frankie from Maryland recently on the nationally syndicated “Keeping it Real with Al Sharpton.”

A political payback to Hispanic voters that does little or nothing for African-Americans, reasoned Sam from Milwaukee on Wisconsin’s 1290 WMCS AM’s “Earl Ingram Show.”

“Our issues are not being highlighted and pushed, and things like gay marriage and (immigration) are being pushed to the forefront,” the caller said. “Hispanics are effectively organized. For us not to be organized and for us not to hold our leadership accountable is disheartening.”

First I have to LAUGH that Al Sharpton has a radio show called Keeping it Real. Talk about an oxymoron.

OF COURSE Obama is pushing for Gay Marriage and Illegal Immigration Reform. This is because the Gay Community and the Hispanic Community have political power. The Democrats are turning Hispanics into the black community and they look like their succeeding.

When the Gay community threatened to not support Obama, he became the first Gay President. The Hispanic community threatened to walk and they get Amnesty.

Personally, I think illegals need a pathway to citizenship but the Borders need to be controlled first. This highlights an important point though. Obama is just a CHICAGO POLITICIAN.

He doesn't walk on water, he falls in and has to swim just like the rest of us.


This sickens me because this means our community doesn't have any power. This is why Obama doesn't show up to the NAACP. There's no benefit for Democrat Politicians doing anything for the black community. When they have 90% or more of our vote they don't have to use any political capital to do anything for the community. What liberals have done is turn black communities into war zones with abortion, welfare and other government handouts. So any time the black community gets upset, the democrats send out Sharpton or Jesse Jackson to go to black Churches and round up the Negroes.

Some angst over Obama addressing immigration and other issues so soon in his second term has boiled over into public criticism of the nation’s first African-American president by many African-Americans, from the grassroots to the political levels.

Bernard Anderson, an Obama supporter and a former assistant labor secretary during Bill Clinton’s presidency, recently told an African-American economic summit at Washington’s Howard University that African-Americans should no longer give Obama “a pass” on dealing with issues that directly impact their community.

“He is not going to run again for anything. He does not deserve a pass anymore,” Anderson said. “Let him not only find his voice but summon his courage and use his political capital to address racial inequality. He owes that to the African-American.”

Some members of the Congressional Black Caucus are quietly seething because Obama hasn’t met with the 42-member group since May 13, 2011. Rep. Alcee Hastings, D-Fla., vented to the National Newspaper Publishers Association last month. He said the black caucus sent the White House the names of 61 potential candidates for positions in a second-term administration that already is coming under fire for being heavy on white males.



Again, Politicians only "care" if they have to earn your vote. If we were smart, we would vote Republican. Not because we agree with Republican but because both sides are a facsimile of corruption. The Republicans would bend over backwards for 20-30% of the black vote. It's about removing idealism when it comes to Politicians and living in the real world.

“I would say a bulk of my listenership is anti-immigration,” he said. “You have to understand that in the community in which I live the percentage of African-Americans who are unemployed. They look at what’s going on with immigration as an affront to African-Americans who can’t pay their mortgages because many of the immigrants come here, they are hired at less than minimum wage.”

The African-American unemployment rate is at 13.8 percent, according to recently released government figures, nearly twice the 7 percent jobless rate for whites. The nation’s overall unemployment rate is 7.9 percent. For Hispanics, the rate is 9.7 percent.

A 2009 study by George Borjas of Harvard University, Jeffrey Grogger of the University of Chicago and George Hanson of the University of California, San Diego, looked at 1960-2000 Census data and found that as immigrants disproportionately increased the supply of workers in a particular area, wages of African-American workers in that area fell, the employment rate declined and the incarceration rate rose.

“Our analysis suggests that a 10 percent immigration-induced increase in the supply of a particular skill group reduced the black wage by 2.5 percent, lowered the employment rate of black men by 5.9 percentage points, and increased the incarceration rate of blacks by 1.3 percentage points,” the professors wrote in the study.

This is about education and how the Democrats keep blacks locked into public schools where Teachers are more worried about their Pension rather than teaching you basic skills. Blacks should support a strong Voucher system in poor black neighborhoods. Go to the Republicans and I guarantee blacks will be in a New Conference with John Boehner faster than their head could spin.

Blacks have to be smart and we have to play both sides or we will just continue to complain for crumbs of the Democrats table.

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posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 11:39 AM
reply to post by neoholographic

Only reason why black voters and illegals vote for Democrats is that they are better at controlling their racism and classism and women rights compared to their opposition, who just can't shut up about it.

When republicans learned to sugarcoat for minorities, is when they will gain the votes from them. Otherwise they will be going in decline.

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 11:56 AM
Blacks are the new minority now, There are now more hispanics in the U.S. than there are blacks so blacks are actually a minority now. Obviously the politicians are going to pander to the bigger minority voting block which now happens to be hispanics and not blacks.

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 12:06 PM
reply to post by neoholographic

When the Gay community threatened to not support Obama, he became the first Gay President.

Dunno what you are talking about. Obama isn't gay.

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 12:11 PM

Originally posted by WaterBottle
reply to post by neoholographic

When the Gay community threatened to not support Obama, he became the first Gay President.

Dunno what you are talking about. Obama isn't gay.

LOL, I wasn't calling Obama Gay, I was referring to the Newsweek Cover. Does anyone read the news?

Newsweek, which has recently become a conduit for controversy with its cover art choices, drew more attention with the debut of its latest issue declaring President Obama to be “the first gay president.”

The cover, featuring Obama anointed with a rainbow halo above his head, made its arrival on newsstands Monday and comes in the wake of Obama’s declaration last week that he is personally in favor of gay marriage.

Here's Newsweek's Cover:

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 12:15 PM
reply to post by neoholographic

Who cares what Newsweek says? Obama isn't gay and he never said he was. .

And do you identify yourself as a republican?
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posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 12:18 PM
reply to post by WaterBottle

You can't be serious.

I said the Gay Community threatened to take their support away from Obama so he became the first Gay President by supporting Gay Marriage. Did you even read the post or the article linked to in the post?

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 12:25 PM
reply to post by neoholographic

This is because the Gay Community and the Hispanic Community have political power. The Democrats are turning Hispanics into the black community and they look like their succeeding.

Republicans are pandering too, welcome to politics. They also pandered to black people, did you not see how many tokens they had speaking at the RNC proportionate to their 99% white membership?

They'll start pandering to gays as soon as the white evangelical vote looses its power in the states they represent as well.

Legal social conservatism is DEAD to the majority of the general public, the GOP is still trying to hang on to a 1950's America mentality. They are the party of white men.

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posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 12:27 PM
more divide and conquer tactics, blacks, hispanics and all americans need to be in the same party, the american party. forget all the divide and conquer rhetoric. we need to come together as a country and make decisions that will benefit our country as a whole. no more of this red state/blue state democratic/republican BS. americans need to wake up and realize we are being kept divided to easier control us.

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 12:41 PM
reply to post by WaterBottle

Of course they pander. Did you even read my post? They pander when you don't walk in lockstep with them. The reason some in the African American Community are complaining is because there's no need for Democrats to pander to blacks. They have over 90% of their vote no matter what.

The reason Obama Panders to Hispanics and Gays is because the Democrats don't get their vote no matter what.

You're post proves my point. Politicians pander when they have to earn your vote. So blacks should make Democrats earn it or they will just keep complaining.

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 12:48 PM
reply to post by conspiracy nut

I agree to a certain extent but this is a pollyannish view of reality. The fact is all if not most Politicians are corrupt because they have too much power. This is reality and the only time they "care" is when they have to "pander" and "earn" your vote.

So yes, the black community should play both sides (republicans and democrats) just like the Gays, Hispanics, Women and other groups. This is just the way it is. I wish it could be different and maybe one day it will but for now we have to live in the real world.

The black community is in dire straits because they have become slaves to the democrat party.

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 12:51 PM
I think this is a pretty interesting debate. The demographics in the US are rapidly changing. Both the Democrats and Republicans are heavily courting Hispanics as the fastest growing minority in the US.

I don't think, as time passes, this will bode well for black leaders who have made careers extorting businesses and governments. It's a lot harder to extort someone who has no "guilt" over the sins of their ancestors.

For the GOP, Hispanics are no where near the lost cause that African Americans are.The Hispanic population is no where near as monolithic as the African American population either. With some notable exceptions on the left coast, the Hispanic family (mom, kids, and dad living in same house) is no where near as fractured as in the African American community. Combine that with the large percentage of Hispanics who are devout practicing Catholics who have relatively conservative moral values and the GOP has more room to split the Hispanic vote with the Democrats than they do to make inroads into the African American electorate.

If someone who has a "D" by their name is guaranteed to receive 80-95% of the African American vote simply by having that "D" why would they spend resources to shore up support in that demographic when you already own it, when you have a larger and faster growing demographic that your opposition actually has a chance of winning a good percentage of?
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posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 12:56 PM
Sigh there is a group of people in this country who says your racist if you don't throw money and certain ethic groups in this country.

That is a fact, then turn around and say they need to start throwing money at them and be just like the other side so whats the point?

Bribing people to get in to office and keep power nah we do know who the party of slavery is they have been the party of slavery since the civil war, and they do everything they can lie,bribe,threaten to keep them on that government plantation.

That government master, who feeds,clothes,educates, and tells you who the "bad" people are we all know who the slaves still are.

Of course one ethnic group wasn't enough they expanded it to cover others.
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posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 02:33 PM
reply to post by neoholographic

Blacks are now crying about illegal immigration and Obama.

You mean all black people are crying about Obama and his handling of illegal immigration? Or is it only some blacks? If it's some blacks then I can't see how it's news? There are people of all colors who have raised their concerns about illegal immigration, so?

Personally, I think illegals need a pathway to citizenship but the Borders need to be controlled first.

He's doing a pretty good job of that. There have been more deportations under his presidency than most other presidents:

It doesn't help that you have opponents of the president, such as Arpaio, Jan Brewer, harping off about illegal immigration and how it's so bad (when it's actually better now than under most previous presidents) and yet these very same people, State government officials, spent their time and money focusing on putting prayer and guns in schools, and researching Obama's birth certificate. But hey? Illegal immigration is so bad that they choose to go off and waste time and money on other issues? But Obama's not doing enough? hmm.


You sure don't know your history right? Back then the demographics between the parties were opposite each other. The Democratic party of the hold held the near exact demographic of the Republican party today and vice versa. The Democratic party was dominated by Southern politics, the "states rights" advocates who claims that slavery was a States right issue, regardless of the injustice of the institution (sounds very familiar). Reagan and many Republicans were at one time members of the Democratic party but they all switched during the 60's, 70's 80's, following the civil rights movements.

Read your history.

posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 06:23 PM
reply to post by luciddream

Thank you. I don't even think any of this is real. Because it isn't real.

Both these parties work for the big 6 banks and not for us.

Vote only for the libertarian party or constitutionalists party.
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