posted on Feb, 20 2013 @ 03:31 PM
reply to post by ajay59
At some point it honestly starts to look like argumentum ad ignorantium - this clutching at straws and claiming victory where none has been achieved.
Let me paraphrase how I see this entire debate unfolding:
The sky is plaid. You have been lied to your whole life and that lie is really what is making you think that the sky is not plaid. But, in fact it
is plaid. The Interwebz say so.
Actually, I am going to have to stick with what I know to be true. The sky is, in fact, blue.
HA! YOU DID NOT DISPUTE MY STATEMENT. I WIN. THE SKY IS PLAID!!! YOU DID NOT SAY THAT IT WAS NOT PLAID SO I WIN BY DEFAULT!!!
I want to point out the glaring fact that nobody has ever
come into any sovereign citizen thread and posted irrefutable proof that any of this
garbage has any validity. The best they can do is Youtube videos that only capture a brief moment of an event - usually with titles like "True
Sovereign Makes Judge Cower In Fear!". Why are these people not here, with court documents rubbing my nose in their victory? I mean, this stuff is
not brand new. Surely there are tens or even hundreds of thousands of people who have mastered this system and used to humiliate Judges, prosecutors,
and lawyers. Why are they silent?
If they exist at all - something I earnestly doubt.
What stymies me most is this empty appeal to emotion that keeps coming up when proof against the concept is provided. I pegged it right at the
beginning of the thread by predicting that, when confronted with the fact that people have been jailed for this - the excuse would be offered that the
people weren't criminals - they were martyrs to the cause. That the concept is valid, but the system persecutes it to make it appear invalid. A
bizarre, twilight zone rational that the whole ball of nonsense isn't illegal... well it is but it technically isn't... wait... it is but it
shouldn't be... IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE US THEN YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM AND THE REASON THE SYSTEM EXISTS TO BEAT US DOWN!!!
IE... the real argument is "Why are all of you people and your damned laws preventing me from getting my free mountain of gold??? Why you gotta be
making me pay for the stuffs that I get???"
I expect this sort of logical disconnect from toddlers. But from adults? It's just mind blowing.