Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by Honor93
that's why i'm still in this thread.
And likewise, just because there are videos of "sovereign freeman" shout in court on the Internets is no evidence they were successful.
Any corporation granted an exemption by the IRS as a non-profit organization under Section 501(c) is exempt from Delaware Corporate Income Tax.
Additionally, Non-Profit Corporations are exempt from obtaining a Delaware business license and paying the accompanying gross receipts tax on the sales of most goods and services. (Some services such as leasing tangible personal property or providing accommodations are taxable regardless of the entity providing such services.)
The following definitions are from Black's Law Dictionary, 8th edition. Published by Thomson-West, and edited by Bryan A. Garner (editor-in-chief):
Capitis deminutio (from Roman law) A diminution or alteration of a person's legal status -- Also spelled capitis diminutio.
Capitis Deminutio Maxima (from Roman law) The diminution of a person's legal status as a result of being reduced to slavery.
Capitis deminutio minima (from Roman law) The diminution of a person's legal status involving a change of family, while both citizenship and freedom were retained.
Capitis deminutio minor (from Roman law) The diminution of a person's legal status involving a loss of citizenship but not of freedom. Under the Empire, banishment for life to an island or other restricted area had this effect. Also termed capitis deminutio media.
i honestly try to avoid WW as much as possible.
thoughts of that embarassment make me wanna hurl
although, if it's news to you ... i guess we can discuss him
this whole country changed alot when WW came on scene.
From a speech in Congress in The Bankruptcy of The United States United States Congressional Record, March 17, 1993 Vol. 33, page H-1303. Speaker-Rep. James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:
"Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens or mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913) "Hypothecated" all property within the federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve - in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a "beneficiary" of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets and labor of their "subjects," the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to the Federal Reserve System.
In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend THE FEDERAL United States CORPORATION [emphasis added] all the credit "money substitute" it needed. Like any other debtor, the federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the federal United States didn't have any assets, they assigned the private property of their "economic slaves", the U.S. citizens as collateral against the unpayable federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations, as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.
perhaps you should ask those who have suffered such identity theft ... it happens.
Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
Let's do a thought experiment....
Let's pretend your name is Joe Smith. I find this out, and I decide to go into downtown Atlanta and file to create a Corporation called "Joe Smith Inc."
Does that effect you in any way, shape, or manner? Does it negate or define you?
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Originally posted by Honor93
none of the posters insisting this is wrong or illegal (including yourself) have provided any evidence of said illegality.
You haven't claimed any illegality, only misconceptions. There's really no point in providing evidence in a conversation such as this since you'll simply reject it. I have no desire to fuel your fantasies of Internet one-upmanship.
Originally posted by vkey08
I found something interesting as I was going through the paperwork I have stashed around my home office.
The real things the UCC forms the OPPT are used for and how they are twisted to be used for nefarious purposes..
So here goes, hopefully without too much flamage.
The Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) was first published in 1952 as part of an effort to help standardize commercial transactions throughout the US. Sovereign citizens commonly use the following legitimate UCC forms as part of fraudulent filings:
• UCC-1 - A financial form used to secure a loan under the provisions of the UCC. - Sovereigns use this document to create a public and private notice of superior security interest, claims, or liens on collateral. The Secured party is listed as the filer or another person whom is entering the contract. The Debtor is responsible for the monetary payment and is listed as officially acknowledging the contract. - These documents are filed to complete a security interest and establish priority of collateral. - UCC-1 filings protect the Secured party’s interest in the collateral offered by a Debtor for a loan.
• UCC-3 - A form filed as evidence of an assignment, release, or change in the original UCC-1. - UCC-3 filings can be used both legitimately and by sovereign citizens to terminate a UCC-1, assign a new Secured party, change the Debtor or Secured party information, or to change the collateral requested in the initial filing.
• UCC-3AD - A form filed to authorize amendments listed in the UCC-3. - Sovereign citizens are known to file UCC-3 Addendums to pay specific debts.
• General Tactics Using UCCs - The sovereign citizen files a UCC naming themselves as both the Secured party and Debtor. - This action is believed to “lock” their assets. - Sovereign citizens believe “locking” their asset will require them to “pay” themselves before other creditors may claim assets.
They claim that people are "enslaved by the system." They offer freedom. People who reject the system and work to change it are called "revolutionaries." Yet, the OPT and the Freeman movement have done nothing to change the system. Instead, they offer a "loophole" to individuals to escape the system without doing anything to change it. Indeed, they hold out the promise of being able to exploit the system, allowing a chosen few to enjoy the benefits of the system without being held accountable to it.
No. You're still "in this thread" because it's a game to you. No logical facts sway you. No sane rationale makes sense to you. The thrill of "proving someone wrong on the Internets" (especially if they're really right) is what stokes your fire.
Originally posted by WaterBottle
Anyone have any idea of the psychology involved in the individuals that buy into these types of scams?
A trust in this sense is a monetary instrument that is used to hold collateral to be dispersed according to the trust setup.
no, i wouldn't.
You wouldn't want to buy a jet ski that hasn't been paid off yet, would you?