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Originally posted by ajay59
reply to post by flyswatter
Why does it seem as though you have been assigned to me.
Rather than bickering about the laws being wrong, they should be fighting to actually change the laws themselves.
So, does this mean that you agree wit these OPPT people in some way, that the laws are not what they appear to be and should be changed?
Originally posted by vkey08
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by Crakeur
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
no, they do exist but they are not the same as the federal alphabet groups you thought they were.
read, carefully, the names vkey gave you.
edited to add: a quick name search in NY indicates that I can incoroporate Central Intelligence Authority here, if I so desire.
edit on 14-2-2013 by Crakeur because: (no reason given)
I am 99% sure the names of the corporations registered directly reflect the agencies everyone knows and hates.
I think you are grasping at straws!
I saw one registered once a long time ago, don't ask me to remember what state it was in, but it was something like Federal Bureau of Criminal Investigations, and they used the initials FBI. People thought it was the same agency I work for, when in fact it was a private company that did, as they claimed Criminal Investigations for Corporations.
I saw one registered once a long time ago, don't ask me to remember what state it was in, but it was something like Federal Bureau of Criminal Investigations, and they used the initials FBI. People thought it was the same agency I work for, when in fact it was a private company that did, as they claimed Criminal Investigations for Corporations.
Editor's note: Actually in the U.S. Code the term "United States" is said to have any of three meanings: US CODE: Title 28,3002. Definitions (archived here) (15) "United States" means — (A) a Federal corporation; (B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or (C) an instrumentality of the United States.
Originally posted by Hefficide
Side note:
I'm noticing that it's become more and more common for people to misunderstand the definition of the very word "freedom". Freedom is a complex concept - not an absolute. It never was an absolute. Even if you were to move to the tundra, at the edge of the world, you'd immediately become enslaved to the simple act of staying alive and keeping food, heat, water, and shelter in supply and repair.
In a society that balance is best defined as being a balance between what you want and need vs what those around you also want and need.
There are places in the world, still, where this irrational definition of freedom exists - and where it can still be had. Just fly to Somalia, raise an army of child soldiers and fight whatever warlord is in control of any particular area. If your child army can defeat his child army? BAM instant and total freedom to do anything you want, without a single consideration for those around you at all.
That is until the next guy with a child army comes along and takes it away from you.
Originally posted by tinhattribunal
Originally posted by Hefficide
Side note:
I'm noticing that it's become more and more common for people to misunderstand the definition of the very word "freedom". Freedom is a complex concept - not an absolute. It never was an absolute. Even if you were to move to the tundra, at the edge of the world, you'd immediately become enslaved to the simple act of staying alive and keeping food, heat, water, and shelter in supply and repair.
In a society that balance is best defined as being a balance between what you want and need vs what those around you also want and need.
There are places in the world, still, where this irrational definition of freedom exists - and where it can still be had. Just fly to Somalia, raise an army of child soldiers and fight whatever warlord is in control of any particular area. If your child army can defeat his child army? BAM instant and total freedom to do anything you want, without a single consideration for those around you at all.
That is until the next guy with a child army comes along and takes it away from you.
your arguement is 'childish'
furthermore, there is no place left on earth that you can go to be 'free'
every square inch of it is owned by the 'state'...
i can't even find a decent spot to go have a beer and a smoke.
one can hide in the house [cave], that's no fun...
the OPPT has now changed that ,
it's time for us to stop bickering and stock the cooler!
:w:
Originally posted by ajay59
reply to post by vkey08
I saw one registered once a long time ago, don't ask me to remember what state it was in, but it was something like Federal Bureau of Criminal Investigations, and they used the initials FBI. People thought it was the same agency I work for, when in fact it was a private company that did, as they claimed Criminal Investigations for Corporations.
So let me get this straight, are you saying that you work for the FBI? If so, of coarse you are going to defend in favor of yourself! I somehow picture Al Capone saying to Federal agents,"of coarse I do not belong to any criminal organization" and the feds reply,"well, alrighty then"!
Editor's note: Actually in the U.S. Code the term "United States" is said to have any of three meanings: US CODE: Title 28,3002. Definitions (archived here) (15) "United States" means — (A) a Federal corporation; (B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or (C) an instrumentality of the United States.
So what we have here is what many believe as a fictitious entity, with all the guns and prisons, asserting power over those they supposedly got it from, and they are telling everyone that what they are doing is right and just. Okay, got it.
Originally posted by tinhattribunal
the OPPT has now changed that ,
Originally posted by tinhattribunal
but we are communicating on a message board with an IP address from Langley, home to the CIA.
Originally posted by flyswatter
Originally posted by tinhattribunal
Originally posted by Hefficide
Side note:
I'm noticing that it's become more and more common for people to misunderstand the definition of the very word "freedom". Freedom is a complex concept - not an absolute. It never was an absolute. Even if you were to move to the tundra, at the edge of the world, you'd immediately become enslaved to the simple act of staying alive and keeping food, heat, water, and shelter in supply and repair.
In a society that balance is best defined as being a balance between what you want and need vs what those around you also want and need.
There are places in the world, still, where this irrational definition of freedom exists - and where it can still be had. Just fly to Somalia, raise an army of child soldiers and fight whatever warlord is in control of any particular area. If your child army can defeat his child army? BAM instant and total freedom to do anything you want, without a single consideration for those around you at all.
That is until the next guy with a child army comes along and takes it away from you.
your arguement is 'childish'
furthermore, there is no place left on earth that you can go to be 'free'
every square inch of it is owned by the 'state'...
i can't even find a decent spot to go have a beer and a smoke.
one can hide in the house [cave], that's no fun...
the OPPT has now changed that ,
it's time for us to stop bickering and stock the cooler!
:w:
What the OPPT has done is get people convicted of felonies and put in jail for many years. If that is what you define as freedom, then by all means, proceed along your path of righteousness. At least that will be one less person in front of me on the road.
Originally posted by Crakeur
Originally posted by tinhattribunal
but we are communicating on a message board with an IP address from Langley, home to the CIA.
like the TOPPT tripe, that is blatantly false.
Originally posted by Crakeur
Originally posted by tinhattribunal
but we are communicating on a message board with an IP address from Langley, home to the CIA.
like the TOPPT tripe, that is blatantly false.
I just think that in a country that has a good 45% governmental employment rate
Originally posted by vkey08
d) all tied into the Galactic Federation of Light nonsense (Ashtar Command) ....
Originally posted by vkey08
Oh and I'm a HUGE fan of Star Trek and BSG
Originally posted by ajay59
reply to post by vkey08
But let me be clear that that ones that are decent citizens without a rap sheet 2 miles long were able to go back down to the city in the months that followed and retrieve their weapons.
That right there is just wrong on so many levels. I have seen somewhere that the actual number employed by the government is even higher. One truth stands out whichever number used, how can a country be efficient and sustainable if more people draw from it than put in? What about keeping the government small so as to be more efficient and to keep it from gaining more power than intended by the framers of the Constitution?