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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
If you don't mean those things, what DO you mean?
What qualifies as "work" to YOU?
Demanding others find your proof does no good.
I don't really care what you believe about the work they did together..
You already think Obama is a big liar.
Are you going to support him if you find out the "work" they did actually meets your standard? No. You will still hate him as much as you always have.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Again .. someone show me the White House and/or the Obama administration making statements over the past four years that Obama and the pope have been working closely together to a common goal.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
try to end the killings of Christians in Egypt ..
end the one child policy of China ..
try to relieve human trafficing in Central America ...
try to free prisoners in Iranian prisons ....
try to get religious freedom for Catholics in China ...
....
I just want to see what it is that Obama is claiming ...
Originally posted by BritofTexas
Originally posted by neo96
Pointing out that Obama has not worked with religious people in this case Catholics is well known as forcing them to pay for contraception he has worked against them.
You seem to be rather obsessed with a woman's reproductive rights. I'm sure you can get help for that. And, now, thankfully, under Obamacare, it should be affordable.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
they have to have worked CLOSELY together and TOWARD A COMMON GOAL for you to consider it "work". Fair enough. Obama didn't claim either,
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
But Obama didn't claim ANY of that.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Obama's statement said that he and the pope had worked together for four years.
The insinuation was one of co-worker and working together towards something.
The insinuation was one of partnership and intimate and frequent meetings/dealings.
I just want to know what it is that Obama and the Pope supposedly worked together towards.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Weeding through all the personal insults and off topic jabs by people who cant' find the information ... :shk:
Again .. it's very simple ...
Obama's statement said that he and the pope had worked together for four years.
The insinuation was one of co-worker and working together towards something.
The insinuation was one of partnership and intimate and frequent meetings/dealings.
Someone post information showing exactly how they 'worked together' and that it was for the four years that Obama claimed.
VERY SIMPLE.
I just want to know what it is that Obama and the Pope supposedly worked together towards.
And I would like to see the credibile information showing it.
That's all. Simple.
In an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV, Cardinal Wuerl was asked for his reaction to the Department of Health and Human Services mandate calling for religious-affiliated institutions to provide insurance coverage for abortion-inducing drugs, sterilization, and contraceptives for employees.
“This is the invasion of our religious freedom by a government mandate,” he declares.
“This has never happened before. We’ve always been free to exercise our religious freedom. Now we’re being told we must do something that we aren’t able to do.
“I think the reason why this is resonating among so many people is that people recognize this is the first time we’ve faced that type of intrusion.
“What do people do? I think they speak up. In our democratic republic the first response is always to speak up and let your mind be heard. Let what you think be heard by those who make these mandates.”
Pope Benedict last month warned U.S. bishops about the threat of radical secularism in America.
Cardinal Wuerl tells Newsmax: “The difference between this radical secularism and what we have in the past is this is saying there’s no place for you. I think we had a very healthy country when there was room for all of us. The radical secularism is saying there’s no room for you.
“Is it impacting on our whole culture? I think there are some who buy into this. There are some who see this as the future. On the other hand I’m seeing lots and lots of people, young people and not so young but particularly young adults today, who are saying, I think I want a richer life. I want a life in which recognition of God is part of it.”
The Pope has called for a “new evangelization” and asked Cardinal Wuerl to head a synod of bishops on the subject. Asked what does new evangelization mean, he responds: “The background of the new evangelization is to recognize that many people have drifted away from the faith. We live in a secular context. The new evangelization calls on us to re-propose to all people to reexamine what they think they know and come to a real deep appreciation for what their faith is all about.
his scripted moments.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
He said he appreciated their work together over these last four years. They weren't office mates. We all know that. They didn't work together FOR four years. They are not co-workers. He never claimed that.
YOU inserted a bunch of assumptions so you can rag on Obama over something he didn't even say.
I didn't infer either of these from his statement.
No you don't. You want to rag on Obama. That one thing is CLEAR.