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Originally posted by karen61560
There is a reason that the fastest growing religion is atheism. Because people are not as stupidly superstious as in days of old. They dont believe in benifactors in the sky or in evil demons either. Dumb stuff that.
There is a reason there is a lightning rod on the cathedral. Its the highest point in that area and lightning will seek out the hightest point hence the advice not to stand under a tree to get out of the rain during a thunder storm. The desperate will cling to odd beliefs and see signs everywhere. The intelligent will go on with their day not worrying about natural events like thunder storms.
Originally posted by Destiny10
reply to post by karen61560
Karen why do believing people need to know all the answers? When we've experienced something over and over again, it doesn't matter what a so called well informed scientist believes. Who is anyone to deny what some have experienced. Also, why get all uppity about it? If you don't believe in God, big deal?!
Originally posted by redtic
Originally posted by Destiny10
reply to post by karen61560
Karen why do believing people need to know all the answers? When we've experienced something over and over again, it doesn't matter what a so called well informed scientist believes. Who is anyone to deny what some have experienced. Also, why get all uppity about it? If you don't believe in God, big deal?!
I'm sure anything you think you've experienced can be explained away with a bit of rational thought, which explains why there's absolutely no proof of any of the supernatural claims made by religion, including a God.
Originally posted by Aqualung2012
reply to post by karen61560
about the lightening: please see my comment on page 5 I believe. Consider the odds...
Also consider that the lightening struck the dome of ST PETERS cathedral!!
As far as the name change goes: you counter your own point by making it! The original name is more valid because it cannot be altered to fit the prophecy or not!
edit on 12-2-2013 by Aqualung2012 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Destiny10
It is just fashion to be atheist and that's all. Indoctrination, brain washing if you will. Besides who wants to get into the demands a faith brings or consider heaven and hell? No darn fun! A lot to know about the universe though, and you don't know my life. It is weird!
Originally posted by Son of Will
Since the Pope, and the religion-cult of Christianity at large has nothing to do with spirituality and hence no actual connection to anything we could possibly consider "God", this is either a coincidence, or the Vatican, being the wealthiest 'nation' on the planet, probably just paid for some dramatic weather to mark the event, via technological manipulation. (If I had access to both immeasurable wealth and state-of-the-art everything, I'd probably do that myself - putting yourself in their shoes can help understand much otherwise inexplicable behavior from people with immense power)edit on 12-2-2013 by Son of Will because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Thought Provoker
reply to post by Aqualung2012
Cardinal Bertone is the most politically-powerful Cardinal. He's the Vatican's Secretary of State. He's been around for more than 20 years, working from the inside. He and Ratzinger go way back. He's not from Rome, so he's not literally "Roman," but he was born in a place called "Romano Canavese," up near Turin, so he could still be called Peter the Roman I suppose. He was also the main target of the "Vatileaks" scandal, exposing Vatican corruption in their financial dealings; Bertone suppressed the whistleblower, the now-infamous butler of Benedict who says he was trying to protect the Pope. Bertone even hired Fox News to do "damage control" and tried to blackmail journalists to shut them up. He's as evil as they come.
Whether he ends up the next Pope or not, he damn sure wants to be. And he has the influence to pull it off. Turkson is a nobody compared to him.
Oh, PS: have you been watching all the MSM speculation about Who Will Become Pope? Even though Bertone is on the official list, I have yet to hear them mention him as a possibility. They're trying to keep him out of the public eye, for Some Reason. That makes his "election" even more likely to me.edit on 2/12/2013 by Thought Provoker because: PS
Originally posted by Newagekid2012
Go look at the Prophecy of the Popes then tell me you don't wanna crap yourself.